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Hello - I am new to this fantastic forum and have been trying to find the info I am after without bothering anyone.
But to no avail - I would like to purchase a road map of Baja - I like maps very much anyway and enjoy pouring over them before my trip (Feb2019)
To contradict myself........ I would also like to ask which is the best in-car navigation system for maps
Thank you all very much
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David K
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The last good paper road map was the 2010 AAA Baja map. The last good topo map book was the 2009 Baja California Almanac.
Satellite navigation has several options. LB Maps is one. I have the Earthmate AP on my smartphone and it was helpful using it with a Garmin inReach
device.
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Have you seen my 30 maps made this year? They are in the Road Conditions forum on Nomad. Feel free to copy them if it helps.
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Quote: Originally posted by mac  | Hello - I am new to this fantastic forum and have been trying to find the info I am after without bothering anyone.
But to no avail - I would like to purchase a road map of Baja - I like maps very much anyway and enjoy pouring over them before my trip (Feb2019)
To contradict myself........ I would also like to ask which is the best in-car navigation system for maps
Thank you all very much |
Gaia or Back Country Navigator for offroad. They are apps you run on your phone. Both are much better than Earthmate. I prefer, BCN, but it is
Android only.
Google Maps for paved roads. Gaia and BCN do have paved roads as well. Just not the fancy turn by turn directions.
All three allow you do use maps offline w/o cell service, but you have to set them up to do so. Old school standalone GPS's like Garmin are complete
trash compared to modern GPS apps on SmartPhones.
Do offroad trip planning on Google Earth. Export it to your phone app.
[Edited on 12-19-2018 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by mac | Hello - I am new to this fantastic forum and have been trying to find the info I am after without bothering anyone.
But to no avail - I would like to purchase a road map of Baja - I like maps very much anyway and enjoy pouring over them before my trip (Feb2019)
To contradict myself........ I would also like to ask which is the best in-car navigation system for maps
Thank you all very much |
For paper, national geographic sells a 2 map set of baja. Guia Roji sells a few paper road maps of baja. Available online.
I like the nat geo set.
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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HeyMulegeScott
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David K has some great maps.
We use a combination of Google and Garmin for navigation. You can download the Baja as offline area to your phone. We also have a trusty Garmin Nuvi
GPS with North America maps that includes Mexico. You can go to iOverlander and download their entire Mexico database which includes campgrounds,
restaurants, stores, places to get water etc. and upload it to your GPS and Basecamp desktop PC app for free. Works great no cell signal needed http://app.ioverlander.com/places/search.gpx?country=MEX&...
Screen shot in Basecamp with ioverlander data-
We also have a Garmin InReach for offroad navigation and two-way sat. communication.
[Edited on 12-19-2018 by Three2tango]
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | The last good paper road map was the 2010 AAA Baja map. The last good topo map book was the 2009 Baja California Almanac.
Satellite navigation has several options. LB Maps is one. I have the Earthmate AP on my smartphone and it was helpful using it with a Garmin inReach
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a few years back i bought 2 National Geographic maps BC &BCS. although they were printed on very high-quality water/tear resistant paper they
turned out to be remarkably crappy maps. they did however show where mex hwy 1 was located.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango | David K has some great maps.
We use a combination of Google and Garmin for navigation. You can download the Baja as offline area to your phone. We also have a trusty Garmin Nuvi
GPS with North America maps that includes Mexico. You can go to iOverlander and download their entire Mexico database which includes campgrounds,
restaurants, stores, places to get water etc. and upload it to your GPS and Basecamp desktop PC app for free. Works great no cell signal needed http://app.ioverlander.com/places/search.gpx?country=MEX&...
We also have a Garmin InReach for offroad navigation and two-way sat. communication.
[Edited on 12-19-2018 by Three2tango] |
Garmin was cool 10-15 years ago. It's outdated now. Much easier to use apps now.
[Edited on 12-19-2018 by JZ]
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If you're old school and have a Garmin Nuvi GPS, City Navigator North America will work fine for highway use. Ensure it includes Mexico. Hard to get
in USA that's included with a GPS purchase, but you can download from Garmin's web site. This map is routable, meaning you can input an address or
destination and it'll lead you there.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/1456#overview
Printed maps... seems that David K has it covered....
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i have these in the car...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Baja-California-Mexico-Map-Pack-Bun...
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David K
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Yes, these are beautiful, BIG maps but not a lot of travelers info (like the AAA maps which have mileages on every road shown and gas stations
located). They were made in 2008, I recall? The good thing is they are still available whereas the AAA and Almanac maps are out-of-print and pricy
now.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | The last good paper road map was the 2010 AAA Baja map. The last good topo map book was the 2009 Baja California Almanac.
Satellite navigation has several options. LB Maps is one. I have the Earthmate AP on my smartphone and it was helpful using it with a Garmin inReach
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a few years back i bought 2 National Geographic maps BC &BCS. although they were printed on very high-quality water/tear resistant paper they
turned out to be remarkably crappy maps. they did however show where mex hwy 1 was located. |
lol.. I too have a brand new set of these I don't think i've ever opened, I just dug em out of the car and sure enough they're beautiful maps, but
pretty useless. im thinking take a sharpie to em and add Davids stuff and they'd be nice maps!
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David K
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Thanks Willard,
I would like to finish covering all of Baja and be able to splice them together. Just a lot of work because I am trying to use all my notes and place
exactly all the roads I have traveled and logged. I still am missing the Sierra Juarez and a few sections.
Taco Feliz, who created my book's cover art, was kind enough to splice three or four of my maps together (not easy because they are not all the same
scale) for my Baja Bound article on the Seven Sisters road.
[Edited on 10-27-2021 by David K]
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JZ - Your phone uses GPS and cell towers (if available) to calculate position. My Garmin InReach is more accurate because it includes a digital
compass, and barometer. It's not an either or since you can pair the Garmin to your phone and iPad and still have a more robust backup with 2way sat
communication.
KasloKid - Yeah the Garmin Nuvi is old school that keeps on working. The maps have been updated, include Mexico, and have worked well in Baja for the
past two years. I wouldn't want it as my only GPS but we have at least four other options.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango | JZ - Your phone uses GPS and cell towers (if available) to calculate position. My Garmin InReach is more accurate because it includes a digital
compass, and barometer. It's not an either or since you can pair the Garmin to your phone and iPad and still have a more robust backup with 2way sat
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Very long time boater. We've been to 90% of the islands in the Sea of Cortez. Owned a dozen GPSs over the years. The apps on my phones crush them
all. I use Navonics on the water and BCN on dirt roads.
No cell service required. GPS is incredibly accurate. Today's smartphones have built in barometers for altitude.
The smartphone is what controls the drones I fly. The drone finds it's way back to us from miles away using the GPS on the phone. It can even
transmit back to the drone your current elevation in real time as you go up a mountain. The drone can keep the same height ratio for filming.
On a boat, it shows you w/in 10 feet accuracy of where rocks are.
And we haven't even discussed how much easier these apps are to use. If you are using a Garmin GPS or Garmin mapping app in 2018 you still believe in
dinosaurs.
Inreach is decent, and its 2-way text capability is awesome, but Garmin bought them. Hope they don't screw that up.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Three2tango | JZ - Your phone uses GPS and cell towers (if available) to calculate position. My Garmin InReach is more accurate because it includes a digital
compass, and barometer. It's not an either or since you can pair the Garmin to your phone and iPad and still have a more robust backup with 2way sat
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Very long time boater.
GPS, blah, blah, blah
On a boat, we know w/in 10 feet accuracy of where rocks are.
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10 ft accuracy for mapped navigation hazards? Your trust of apps and map accuracy of navigation hazards may get you in trouble some day.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
10 ft accuracy for mapped navigation hazards? Your trust of apps and map accuracy of navigation hazards may get you in trouble some day.
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Well, sitting at home on your couch you are guaranteed to be safe my friend. So don't worry, worst case for you is a hang nail from chit posting.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
10 ft accuracy for mapped navigation hazards? Your trust of apps and map accuracy of navigation hazards may get you in trouble some day.
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Well, sitting at home on your couch you are guaranteed to be safe my friend. So don't worry, worst case for you is a hang nail from chit posting.
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Jizz,
For “a long time boater,” you sure haven’t learned much.
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The latest AAA map you can find
then find the areas you plan to visit and copy off David K's maps for those quadrants.
Easy, cheap and probably the most accurate you will find
We used them this year for Pacific coast travel from San Ignacio all the way up to Punta Falsa and beyond...
Very good to have along.
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where did you find Rancho Lazaro?
Nothing on Google Earth
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