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[*] posted on 12-20-2018 at 11:18 AM


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JZ - Your phone uses GPS and cell towers (if available) to calculate position. My Garmin InReach is more accurate because it includes a digital compass, and barometer. It's not an either or since you can pair the Garmin to your phone and iPad and still have a more robust backup with 2way sat communication.



Very long time boater. We've been to 90% of the islands in the Sea of Cortez. Owned a dozen GPSs over the years. The apps on my phones crush them all. I use Navonics on the water and BCN on dirt roads.

No cell service required. GPS is incredibly accurate. Today's smartphones have built in barometers for altitude.

The smartphone is what controls the drones I fly. The drone finds it's way back to us from miles away using the GPS on the phone. It can even transmit back to the drone your current elevation in real time as you go up a mountain. The drone can keep the same height ratio for filming.

On a boat, it shows you w/in 10 feet accuracy of where rocks are.

And we haven't even discussed how much easier these apps are to use. If you are using a Garmin GPS or Garmin mapping app in 2018 you still believe in dinosaurs.

Inreach is decent, and its 2-way text capability is awesome, but Garmin bought them. Hope they don't screw that up.


[Edited on 12-20-2018 by JZ]


Your phone uses gps and the network (if available) to improve accuracy. If you have a DJI drone the gps, barometer, and compass are all built into the drone. Your phone is just controlling functions.

I guess the guys in trophy trucks down in Baja doing 100 mph out in the desert in zero visibility using their stand alone gps units don't realize you have a better solution with your phone.




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[*] posted on 12-20-2018 at 11:45 AM


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Your phone uses gps and the network (if available) to improve accuracy. If you have a DJI drone the gps, barometer, and compass are all built into the drone. Your phone is just controlling functions.

I guess the guys in trophy trucks down in Baja doing 100 mph out in the desert in zero visibility using their stand alone gps units don't realize you have a better solution with your phone.


Both the phone AND drone have a barometer, gps, and compass The phone tells the drone what height and location it is at so the drone can follow you as you climb or descend.

Wi-Fi networks can help improve location accuracy if, say, you are inside a building. That's an added benefit over a standalone GPS, not a knock on Smartphone GPSs. Smartphone GPS accuracy (w/o a network connection) today is about 5 meters. New Broadcom chips are hitting the market that will take that accuracy down to 1 meter.

Nice attempt at trying to move the goal posts with the TT reference.

In sum, Garmin was good 10 years ago.



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[*] posted on 12-20-2018 at 11:59 AM


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where did you find Rancho Lazaro?
Nothing on Google Earth


29° 24.489'N, 115° 2.416'W

I drove by it twice in 2017. Here is from my Nomad Trip Report (#4):


So, after taking photos around San José, I drove back up the hill to Mile 19.4 for the coastal road north. Zero my trip odometer...

0.0 Junction Coastal Road and Faro San José road from Hwy 1, Km. 168 (near Cataviña).
4.3 Steep, eroded grade up (4WD).
5.0 Second grade up.
13.1 Los Morros. White picket fence around house. Rocky beach.
16.8 Enter Arroyo Lazaro from the south.
17.2 Rancho Lazaro
20.9 Road to beach, 0.3 mi, rocky. See photo of Acantilado los Candeleros.
22.6 Junction with inland road (2 miles from Puerto Canoas)

This coastal route (22.6 mi took 1.5 hours to drive). Now, I will turn around and drive it south...

0.0 Junction coastal and inland roads, go right, fresh grading. The grading doesn't last or was washed out by this season's rains. 1:36pm
1.7 Road right to a rocky beach with an impressive cliff, see photo.
5.2 & 5.4 driveway to Ranch (Rancho Lazaro) in Arroyo Lazaro.
9.5 Los Morros, white fence. 2:16pm
10.5 Steep grade up.
16.2 Steep grade up.
17.5 Big grade down.
18.2 Big grade down.
22.6 Junction Faro San José/ Cataviña graded road. 3:05pm

On my map, the mileages are all to the black darts, which include some roads beyond the above logs.



Rancho Lazaro is where I wrote in 11.5


This sign (near Canoas) pointed the way to both Rancho Lazaro and Los Morros:





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[*] posted on 12-20-2018 at 01:20 PM


When we went by there last month it looked abandoned. On previous trips I've seen people there but that was a couple of years ago..
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[*] posted on 12-20-2018 at 01:36 PM


Things change all the time. I was there in April of 2017 and as the road goes around the ranch perimeter, I also did not see people that day but the home looked 'normal' and not busted up as you see at Guayaquil, or Guillermo Prieto, or El Arco, all abandoned towns... except for maybe one rancho set up in the middle at the last two.

Any road guide is only accurate the day the author was there... I hope to be asked to do updates every year or two, like the auto club used to do. If not me, my work is designed to easily be updated or added to by anyone. There are many more roads in Baja than I traveled the past two years... but I tried to hit all the popular or interesting ones I could in the time I was researching. I think a recently researched guide is still valuable. Heck, Gerhard & Gulick's Lower California Guidebook was researched in the 1950s and it was still a valuable guide for decades later. Guides also serve to document the way things were, for history.




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[*] posted on 12-21-2018 at 11:13 AM


JZ, what map did you load into Gaia, or did you just use the stock one? Thanks.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2018 at 12:35 PM


I use Back Country Navigator. Use the stock satellite and topo maps.

Load all my tracks on top of those. Created the tracks with Google Earth and exported them.




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[*] posted on 12-23-2018 at 10:51 AM
BCN and Gaia Apps ?


Do either of these Apps on Android allow you to store offline maps on the SD card, to avoid filling internal memory?
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[*] posted on 12-23-2018 at 12:13 PM


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Do either of these Apps on Android allow you to store offline maps on the SD card, to avoid filling internal memory?
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Yes for BCN. StuckSucks probably knows for Gaia.

https://crittermap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/215564103-U...


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[*] posted on 12-24-2018 at 12:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  


where did you find Rancho Lazaro?
Nothing on Google Earth


29° 24.489'N, 115° 2.416'W

I drove by it twice in 2017. Here is from my Nomad Trip Report (#4):



The map maker was especially creative south of San Jose de la Piedra. Bahia Corbin? A. El Jakerú? C El Butchero? Playa Christie? Punta Baja Bob? Ha!




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