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[*] posted on 12-30-2018 at 09:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
Its late and I must be missing something but in this thread we are discussing that Mexico requires a "tourist card" to legally be in Mexico but on another current thread we are discussing that it is highly egregious to require the same of anyone going from south to north?

Strange dichotomy


This thread is about answering Taylor Ann's question from "Talk Baja" on Facebook, nothing more.

The answer according to JoeJustJoe, is yes, you can cross the border armed with only a driver's license, and birth certificate, but you have to cross by car, because Mexico, is not enforcing their requirements at this time, except for the pedestrian walkway.

And yes, you can easily cross back into the US with the same Driver License, and birth certificate, because US Customs, is lax too in enforcing it's own rules, and they can cross reference who you are when the scan your driver license.

Of course others always want to interrupt the party, and tell Taylor Ann, to stay home, because the see the immigrant rules of both countries, set in stone, and rigid, or they have this imaginary notion, that if Taylor Ann, goes into Mexico, without a passport, and FMM, that she is somehow insulting Mexico, because she is not playing by the rules.

I doubt one Mexican, cares if Taylor Ann, does not have a FMM, when she enters Mexico, but some Americans, do care if Mexicans cross into the US, without the proper papers. It's called transference, where you transfer your hard line immigration beliefs unto Mexicans.
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Taylor Ann wrote: Hey there! We are planning on crossing into Baja in a few months and were wondering what the passport situation was. I assumed you needed one, but after looking into it I’ve found a few sites saying you can cross with just a birth certificate and Drivers License. My passport just expired so I was curious as to what the actual laws and requirements were. Thanks!







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[*] posted on 12-30-2018 at 09:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  
Concerning PEOPLE entering Mexico, the proper agency that has jurisdiction over it all is the Instituto Nacional de Migration.
There is no such agency in Mexico.

To impress people that you know what you're talking about*, it helps to write correctly. :lol:

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[*] posted on 12-30-2018 at 09:58 AM


Yeah Lentro, that will really invalidate everything I have wrote so far. Maybe, if you find an incorrect spelling that will work too.

BTW I don't have all the Mexico agencies memorized just like I don't have all the US agencies memorized, and so I used a shortcut equivalent agency.








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[*] posted on 1-6-2019 at 12:46 PM


Here is another question regarding a FMM over at "Talk Baja, where a member named Nadine said, that she crossed the border, and didn't realize she needed a FMM, but is now in Ensenada, on the way to San Quintin, and she was wondering if there is an immigration office in the area where she could get the FMM.

From there in my opinion, Nadine, received a bunch of wrong, dated and dumb advice from Talk Baja members, because you can no longer get a FMM from Ensenada if you're driving in your car.

And although personally, if I was traveling as far down as San Quintin, I would probably get the FMM, but at this point I would not travel all the way back to Tijuana to get a FMM, and just continue on my journey.

It's nice to see a Talk Baja, member, Carmen Living, having fun with the bunch, and laugh at the members telling Nadine, she needs to go back to TJ and get the FMM, before continuing on her journey.

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From Talk Baja:

Nadine wrote: Hi Nice People.

I crossed over the border in Tijuana yesterday and didn’t realize I needed a FMM. I am now in Ensenada. I was planning on going to San Quintin tomorrow and then on all the way south.

Can I get a FMM at an immigration office further south, or do I need to go back to Tijuana and get the FMM?

Thank you!

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a few relevant comments from "Talk Baja"

Toby wrote: use to be able to get them from port captain office
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David wrote: Next too the port captains office in Ensanada
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Benjamin wrote: You need to return to the border.
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Bill Shirk wrote: no you don't
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Carmen Living wrote: Benjamin Johnson this one πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Bill Shirk wrote: since when?
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Ron Reid wrote: Bill Shirk Since Ensenada is no longer a land entry port, only for sea travel, that is at the border now,
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Nadine wrote: Ok back to TJ. Live and learn.
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Carmen Living wrote: πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Carmen Living wrote: It’s not the post, it’s the stupid responses you are getting! I got the same when I posted, just laugh at those stupid responses lol
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Adam wrote: Carmen Living You're calling me dumb because you're supposed to go back to the border... OK, have a good one. Sorry for knowing how it works.
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Carmen wrote: Adam McLane grow up and answer the question. You n I both know what really goes down in Mexico
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Adam wrote: Carmen Living Yes, what really goes down is you stop when you cross the border and get your FMM so when you hit that checkpoint it's all smiles and no pesos. So you can post as many emoji's as you like but what we said was the truth.







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[*] posted on 1-6-2019 at 02:19 PM


Happy New Year Joe,

Thanks for coming to "the other side" and making an effort to give some useful information to the regular readers on BM. Unfortunately some people don't appreciate the input from Off-Topic posters. I have found that myself for that reason I don't post frequently as a matter of fact I just opened my laptop to Baja Nomads since I haven't used in weeks and decided to take a look. It was entertaining on Off-Topic at times but of course there was also some stuff that could have been done without.
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[*] posted on 1-7-2019 at 03:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Happy New Year Joe,

Thanks for coming to "the other side" and making an effort to give some useful information to the regular readers on BM. Unfortunately some people don't appreciate the input from Off-Topic posters. I have found that myself for that reason I don't post frequently as a matter of fact I just opened my laptop to Baja Nomads since I haven't used in weeks and decided to take a look. It was entertaining on Off-Topic at times but of course there was also some stuff that could have been done without.


Hi EnsenadaDr, the fact that you posted in the OT before, isn't the reason some members were mean to you.

There are a handful of ornery, and cranky old men who lean center-right and probably don't like educated women who they view as uppity, or it's their way of trolling.

I pay them no mind, and post what I want.







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