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mtgoat666
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Trump to close the border entirely if he does not get $ for his wall, per tweet today December 28
‘Donald J. Trump, @realDonaldTrump, 4h
We will be forced to close the Southern Border entirely if the Obstructionist Democrats do not give us the money to finish the Wall & also change
the ridiculous immigration laws that our Country is saddled with. Hard to believe there was a Congress & President who would approve!” 
This ought to put a crimp in travel plans for nomads, eh? 
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[Edited on 12-28-2018 by mtgoat666]
[Edited on 1-2-2019 by BajaNomad]
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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MrBillM
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Shelter in Place ?
Between now and The Ascension of Nancy, we may see, hear and read all sorts of tantrums and threats generated from the W.H. Nursery
as D.T. flays about attempting to move the polling numbers (currently 47-33 favoring the Dems) in his favor.
Which is not to say that he won't come through on those threats. His entire business career prior to America's Folly in 2016 has been akin
to a Chimpanzee throwing excrement until he gets his bananas.
One should accept the fact that NOTHING is going to be agreed to until after 03 January when the new House is in session. At this point,
there is absolutely NO advantage to be gained by agreeing to any compromise.
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JoeJustJoe
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Trump, does a good imitation, of Colonel Kurtz, from "Apocalypse Now."
Does he really believe is stupid threats scare anybody except for the Federal workers, that are going without paychecks?
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Trump threatens to close border, terminate trade deals, cut aid unless wall is funded
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"Pelosi was spotted Thursday vacationing in Hawaii at the Fairmont Orchid resort, where room accommodations range from $899-a-night for a standard
room to $4,899-a-night for the presidential suite."
She must be deeply concerned for all those federal workers
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by lewmt  | | "Pelosi was spotted Thursday vacationing in Hawaii at the Fairmont Orchid resort, where room accommodations range from $899-a-night for a standard
room to $4,899-a-night for the presidential suite." |
She deserves a break to rest up prior to doing battle with the most incompetent and crooked president ever.
I hope all democrat house members are resting up to prepare to battle gop corruption beginning in the new year!
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chuckie
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I hope she is spending taxpayer dollars, so they wont be wasted on Federal programs.....
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C'mon Joe....please don't denigrate the Colonel....he was at least troubled by his insanity....and accepted his fate wth a warrior's honour....not
weaseling away from personal responsibility for his distorted actions.....at least he could claim PTSD drove his decisions...not like Private
Bonespur.
Bully Wimp won't make anything great....except the time when he is finally gone from a position where he can scuttle the USA and destroy decades of
hard won diplomacy.
What a goof...
Don't believe everything you think....
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chuckie
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Are Canadians allowed to comment on US politics? I think If you cant vote ya cant b-tch,eh?......jes sayin...
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State of the union speech @ the border.
The sound of rocks banging off the wall in the background.
Pure red meat for the 33%
Es Todo Bueno
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Build the wall, secure the US borders. Absolutely and completely. Not doing so is absolute stupidity.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | Are Canadians allowed to comment on US politics? I think If you cant vote ya cant b-tch,eh?......jes sayin... |
I envy Motoged, because his Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, is sane.
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Amen, brother!!! On a bright note, I read that they caught the illegal immigrant that killed the police officer, Ronil Singh.
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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hook, line and sinker eh?
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Canuckian Commentary
While I might be among the first to acidly (and enthusiastically) denigrate our odd Northern neighbors at any given time, I would also say that anyone
entertaining the recurrent theme that they might not have a place in the discussion ignores the fact that ANY of them who are directly (or indirectly)
affected by the southern border do have a stake in the debate.
AND, making such an argument would deny the validity of anyone opining on events that occur in other foreign countries.
Which we ALL do.
BTW, an interesting point made in televised discussions on the effects of the proposed Wall of Sham, it was noted that any wall would
necessarily be built completely on U.S. land. Given that the border exists for an extensive distance in the middle of the Rio
Grande river, a wall built (necessarily) on the north bank would cede that north bank to Mexico by restricting any access for American
residents/citizens.
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According to all of you liberals on here the wall shouldn't be built. Israel has proven the effectiveness of a wall but liberals are adamantly
opposed to any measure which might be effective at stemming the numbers of ILLEGAL crossings.
Why?
What is the advantage to the US in allowing anyone & everyone who desires entry into our country unabated?
Should we even have a border?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by lewmt | According to all of you liberals on here the wall shouldn't be built. Israel has proven the effectiveness of a wall but liberals are adamantly
opposed to any measure which might be effective at stemming the numbers of ILLEGAL crossings.
Why?
What is the advantage to the US in allowing anyone & everyone who desires entry into our country unabated?
Should we even have a border?
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Your question assumes that illegal crossings are bad...
Israel is a poor comparison, unless you want to discuss israeli treatment of palistineans. Of course, you probably dont want to acknowledge that, eh?
P.s. how long is the israeli border? Fence or wall?
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Having it BOTH Ways ?
Illegal crossings are substantially down and D.T. consistently takes credit while at the same time arguing that things are so bad that an impenetrable
wall at an incredible cost which wouldn't be completed for many years is absolutely necessary.
As a lifelong conservative Republican voter for 50+ years, I support whatever best-cost balance can be achieved and the Trumpian
Great Wall doesn't fit.
As to Israel and its wall .................... Whatever the merits or effectiveness on a far smaller scale, they're facing a situation where the vast
majority of the would-be immigrants are dedicated to the destruction of Israel and killing the Jews. So far, I'm unaware of
any Mexican or Central-American terrorists coming across to blow up population centers.
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Apprehensions SW border sector.
FY 2014......524,000
FY 2015...….440,000
FY 2016 …….553,000
FY 2017 …...415,000
FY 2018...….521,000
FY 2019 ..Oct/Nov 102,000
102,000 that included 10255 unaccompanied children.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
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E-Verify is a virtual digital wall around every employer in the U.S.A if it were to become a law and a tax credit to use it. Real ID is working
already, not good enough right now for bitter baby boomers though.
Believe it or not, but working guy level CBP likes having a view of what is going on the other side of the border. This is what their past military
training best relates to, they can see who throws rocks at them and shoot them, having to drive next to a endless medieval wall and have boiling oil
poured on them because of Orangehead is what they fear. The Vietnam, Trump never served in right in our backyard again, sweet irony
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"Your question assumes that illegal crossings are bad..."
Is there something about the term ILLEGAL that is incomprehensible? Anyone that wants to come in legally & meets the criteria set forth by
whatever current administration is setting said criteria is fine. So human trafficking, drugs(fentanol, heroin, etc) should be allowed in at will
since they are also simply illegal? If a known murderer, rapist, terrorist, or bank robber etc, etc arrives at our border and we can effectively
identify them and perhaps stop them from entering - that is a bad thing to do? Is it actually wrong to have identification and knowledge of the
people who wish to enter our country?
"Israel is a poor comparison, unless you want to discuss israeli treatment of palistineans. Of course, you probably dont want to
acknowledge that, eh?"
I'd be happy to discuss Israeli treatment of the Palestinians (correct spelling) since so many of the wonderful people of Palestine have sworn an oath
to exterminate Jews from the earth. Its quite arguable that Israeli treatment of Palestinians is far better than the way Jews or Christians are
treated in many parts of the Islamic world - wouldn't you agree?
" Having it BOTH Ways ?
Illegal crossings are substantially down and D.T. consistently takes credit while at the same time arguing that things are so bad that an
impenetrable wall at an incredible cost which wouldn't be completed for many years is absolutely necessary.
As a lifelong conservative Republican voter for 50+ years, I support whatever best-cost balance can be achieved and the Trumpian Great Wall
doesn't fit.
As to Israel and its wall .................... Whatever the merits or effectiveness on a far smaller scale, they're facing a situation where the
vast majority of the would-be immigrants are dedicated to the destruction of Israel and killing the Jews. So far, I'm unaware of any Mexican or
Central-American terrorists coming across to blow up population centers."
So - as a casual observer since the days of Jimmy Carter and having heard the promises and excuses of numerous administrations since then, nothing
else has seemed to work very effectively yet. As a lifelong conservative Republican - do you have a solution that might actually
work.....and.....will be accepted and approved by Pelosi, Schumer, etal? I'm not a - "Trump wall or nothing" guy but I'd certainly love to hear about
something more effective before condemning the idea.
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