ReTire
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CB channel for Baja
Is there a commonly used channel for gringos in Baja?
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ehall
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Alot of people on marine channels. CB stays quiet down there. Vhf/uhf radios also being used.
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David K
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The use of CB has really died off. Skip noise during the day keeps the use primarily to caravans who have their squelch turned way up to cut out the
noise. Pick any channel (other than 9) and I doubt if it will bother anyone if anyone locally is on. You have 39 channels to pick from.
We used CB during the 2015 Pole Line Road group trip and during my 2016 Baja Extreme tour. I didn't even bring my CB on all my 2017 expeditions...
just the inReach satellite device... as I was driving solo.
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Bob and Susan
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people here use cell phones
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Most people in even the smallest towns use texting and television over cell network or local WiFi.
Some ranchers use radio, with repeaters on hill tops
Most all Fishermen use radios.
A few Gringo communities w/o cell, such as bola, have radio channels networks for communication, mostly about planning c-cktail hour and shared runs
to the store to restock tequila and gin.
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Hook
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Yeah, nothing like placing 6-10 individual phone calls to members of your caravan...........EACH TIME you want to communicate.
Radios also allow you to connect to others in your area who are on the same frequency. Often a good source of local info from people whose phone
numbers you don't have.
There is a reason why radio communication still exists in the cell phone era, Bob.
An open party line where information can be shared IMMEDIATELY has it's benefits. There's lots of communication that is better handled on a
non-personal, general broadcast level.........unless you prefer repeating the same message X times on a personal level with a cell phone. Texting
group messages on cell phones can work...........but you must have cell tower access and, depending on your cell phone plan, texts might be expensive
in Mexico.
To the original poster, if you are looking for connecting with English-speaking persons outside of your immediate group while in Mexico, a marine VHF
radio is a much better choice. Many gringo communities centered around boating or fishing have organized radio "nets" (regularly scheduled broadcasts
where information is shared and questions are asked and answered by ANYONE who can transmit and receive). They are great sources of local information.
Goat, the community I live in in Mexico has cell phone coverage. Lack of cell coverage is NOT the reason these "nets" exist.
If you are looking for car-to-car communications within your group, consider the hand held, inexpensive FRS radios.
[Edited on 1-2-2019 by Hook]
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VHF/UHF all bands 0-1000mhz handheld 8watts use Chirp software to create a custom map of channels for your needs across local FRS, MURS, HAM, Marine,
UHF. VHF it's fun
[Edited on 1-2-2019 by gnukid]
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CBs are not a good choice for good communications. They are AM modulated which means lots of noise sources get into them such as power lines,
transformers, car static, lightning. FM is virtually noise free so any radio that is FM is good to use.
The FRS radios that Hook mentions above are FM and are good for communications between cars etc. and don't require a license in the US. They are on
UHF frequencies at 2 watts or less so they are pretty much line of sight.
Personally I prefer a VHF radio either handheld or mobile similar to what is used by off road racers. Although today many off road racers are using
satellite phones as well as two-way radios.
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I have a hard wired in CB my truck, so it’s going with me. It’s old enough that it doesn’t have a scan feature. The reason for the question.
I do have a handheld marine band radio. Guess I will bring it based on the responses.
Thanks
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Jack Swords
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Actually the VHF frequencies begin at 30 MHz up to 300 MHz. The wavelength is between 1 and 10 meters hence the 2 meter band is VHF. Anything below
30 MHz would be a poor place to operate a little 8 watt handheld due to competition from the big boys running lots of power. 0-1000 MHz is inclusive
of the HF and LF bands, not usable for low power equipment communications.
Hand held (or mobile @ 25 watts) marine radios are commonly used effectively both on land and in the SOC in Baja. Established marine nets allow
communications and information throughout the area (within range). There are 2 meter repeaters for ham operators in some areas that increase range of
these radios. Hams "should" get the reciprocal license through SCT.
One caution to using marine VHF radios: channel 16 is the marine emergency frequency monitored by Port authorities and the Navy. There are port
channels and Navy channels as well. Excepting these designated channels, there are many others for use.
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PaulW
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CB low wattage = short range, and inferior quality.
Marine limited frequencies low wattage = short range
Vhf with moderate wattage = long range.Lots of frequencies, more watts = longer range.
VHF is what everyone uses = able to communicate.
Buy a hand held Boufong off the web for 30 -69 dollars and get a radio with low wattage and ability to talk to other vhf = short range
Most of us have 50-75 watt radios that cost a whole lot more than any of the above.
Phones don't work in the boondocks. Telcel/ATT has the best coverage.
No designated VHF frequencies. Ask you buddy what frequency he wants to use. Its like a phone you need a number to communicate.
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pappy
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had one hard wired into my truck...seems like most people-even in isolated fishing villages use cells now.
one fun thing is you can communicate with people a long way off if conditions are right. for example, one morning heading east out from la purism we
were communicating with folks in texas on the cb… kind of a fun way to start the long road home!
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I use 3x baofengs 82hp and sometimes use optional Nagoya antennas 771 (I think) and share them with the group with set two channels and lock it if
desired. They also have FM and of course all marine channels etc. Use Chirp software and USB cable to program. In some areas its the only form of tele
communication that works.
[Edited on 1-3-2019 by gnukid]
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Jack Swords
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If one is interested in truly long-range communications from isolated places in Baja a ham license enabling HF radio use can't be beat. Ham tests are
pretty easy now and administered by volunteer examiners. Simply study the question pool available on the Internet. HF radios can run up to 1000
watts, but mobile radios the size of a CB usually run 100 watts. On the lower bands (20 meters for example) you can talk world-wide, use a Pactor
modem and do Internet e-mail, have telephone phone patches back to the states. Most sailboat cruisers in the SOC have ham licenses and HF radios and
are never out of touch. We daily used e-mail and phone patches in our boat while in and around La Paz and when off-road in other parts of the
peninsula. Local line of sight communications are great with VHF/UHF radios, but true long-range contacts are down in the HF spectrum.
Jack N1IY
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Read this thread. We use VHF marine channels 68 and 72.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=90605
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JZ, are you going to make us look up the frequencies for your channels. Most of us do not use a channel number for our radios. Name and/or frequency.
And we don't carry around teh marine frequency/channel chart.
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Thanks Jack, Pretty advanced for most of the Nomads. Now days we are using satellite radio to accomplish basic communication. This is why for the Baja
races we cannot listen in of the various race team chatter. For sure the Ham radio guys sure have all the whistles and bells.
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Swords  | If one is interested in truly long-range communications from isolated places in Baja a ham license enabling HF radio use can't be beat. Ham tests are
pretty easy now and administered by volunteer examiners. Simply study the question pool available on the Internet. HF radios can run up to 1000
watts, but mobile radios the size of a CB usually run 100 watts. On the lower bands (20 meters for example) you can talk world-wide, use a Pactor
modem and do Internet e-mail, have telephone phone patches back to the states. Most sailboat cruisers in the SOC have ham licenses and HF radios and
are never out of touch. We daily used e-mail and phone patches in our boat while in and around La Paz and when off-road in other parts of the
peninsula. Local line of sight communications are great with VHF/UHF radios, but true long-range contacts are down in the HF spectrum.
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JZ
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68 156.425 MHz Maritime Radio
72 156.625 MHz
I also have 16 programmed, but don't transmit on it obviously.
16 156.800 MHz International Distress, Safety & Calling
Here is the list of VHF marine frequencies: https://www.mobilesystems.co.nz/news_and_publications/id/51/...
Baofeng and Yaesu radios allow you to assign a channel number to a frequency. So I setup 16, 68, and 72 on our HH's and truck radio.
[Edited on 1-2-2019 by JZ]
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