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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 07:45 AM


Bubba the one-liner wonder can't get pass one sentence and so he is now resorting to pictures. What's next crayons?

It didn't go well with the President and his fire side chat that was full of lies as usual.

I predict the US Gov will be open soon without the wall.








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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 08:22 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

I predict the US Gov will be open soon without the wall.


I think you are right. Republicans are already defecting. Like rats from a sinking ship.

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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 10:32 AM
Open - Closed - Who KNOWS ?


There is a line of thinking among many analysts that D.T. still might roll the dice and declare his emergency thinking that it's a "No Lose" gambit. Given the established deference shown by the courts, he could get away with it.

On the other hand, should the [Supreme] court rule against him as that court previously did with Truman, Trump can say to his base that he gave it his best efforts.

And, of course, continue onward into 2020 laying blame on the opposition party.

One problem with the "emergency" route (beyond any court rulings) which might derail his desire to do so is that of having to redirect significant sums of dedicated military spending. And, redirecting military personnel. THAT would start another firestorm, BUT his thinking might be that he can still lay the blame off on the Dems.

What's next ? As one analyst said yesterday ....................... "Hey, it's Trump ! Who knows ?"

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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 01:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Bubba the one-liner wonder can't get pass one sentence and so he is now resorting to pictures. What's next crayons?

It didn't go well with the President and his fire side chat that was full of lies as usual.

I predict the US Gov will be open soon without the wall.



I think Bubba is just trying to be considerate and keep it simple enough for you to comprehend.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2019 at 01:40 PM


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I think Bubba is just trying to be considerate and keep it simple enough for you to comprehend.


Speaking of simple, didn't you post this video before? If so, it doesn't look like it's working out for your hero.


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
Just had to post this for Goats enjoyment.:biggrin::biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w7I_y5qCUPc&feature=youtu....







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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 05:11 AM


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Bubba the one-liner wonder can't get pass one sentence and so he is now resorting to pictures. What's next crayons?

It didn't go well with the President and his fire side chat that was full of lies as usual.

I predict the US Gov will be open soon without the wall.



I think Bubba is just trying to be considerate and keep it simple enough for you to comprehend.


Correct. I refuse to get in a peein match with anyone, especially someone as narrow/close minded as JJJ. Have a great day folks!




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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 07:33 AM


What are you talking about Bubba? You're always attacking liberals like in this thread. You continue to support the Lier-in-chief, without a clue how deeply unpopular he is with an approval rating in the very low 40's except for his small base in rural America and the south, who love him because he has harsh views on immigration.

Look in the mirror Bubba, before you call others narrow minded.







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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 09:58 AM


The bottom line is even with a new wall we need more border patrol officers and personnel to handle all of the immigrants seeking asylum. With the new technology and more border patrol personnel we can do without a useless and expensive wall. We can do more agents/personnel w/o a wall, but you can't do a wall w/o more agents/personnel. so why bother with a presidential vanity project expensive that only his idiotic base wants?
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 10:33 AM


How many people have considered the implications of a wall and have removed the fencing between their neighbors? Must be a crisis brewing with the landfills being overwhelmed with fence material and all. I hope someone can figure out a viable recycling project for all of this material that is going to waste. Until that is figured out, I will keep the wall around my house- just doing my part to be green.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 10:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
How many people have considered the implications of a wall and have removed the fencing between their neighbors? Must be a crisis brewing with the landfills being overwhelmed with fence material and all. I hope someone can figure out a viable recycling project for all of this material that is going to waste. Until that is figured out, I will keep the wall around my house- just doing my part to be green.


A wall or fence around your own property is a private and personal financial and/or security issue. A wall along our borders is a public and national issue. I'd say that's a "false equivalence" on your part.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:05 AM


Not sure what you mean John. I thought our government is here to provide protection and security.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Not sure what you mean John. I thought our government is here to provide protection and security.


I mean that what people do on their private property has nothing to do with national sovereignty or border control. All walls are not the same. You can't compare someone's gated, private community to a national border, which is a public issue, not a private one. It needs to be decided by our representatives in Congress, not the local homeowner's group.

Protection and security is provided by the DOD, DHS, local authorities, etc. They are government entities, which involves all of us. A private security guard at a gated community is a hardly the same thing.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:15 AM


I can agree with you that not all walls are the same. I also agree that this should be decided by our Congressional representatives. I am disappointed that our elected officials are seemingly unable to get things done and instead spend all their time pointing fingers and trying to make themselves look good.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
How many people have considered the implications of a wall and have removed the fencing between their neighbors? Must be a crisis brewing with the landfills being overwhelmed with fence material and all. I hope someone can figure out a viable recycling project for all of this material that is going to waste. Until that is figured out, I will keep the wall around my house- just doing my part to be green.


I don't have a fence between me and my neighbors, and I don't feel unsafe at all. If somebody comes over who is not invited, I will be alerted by my dogs, and if they are a threat I will either call the police, or bring out weapons, with includes guns.

A wall will be a waste of money and will not stop a determined persons who can always go around, under, or through the wall......you also don't own the USA








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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
The bottom line is even with a new wall we need more border patrol officers and personnel to handle all of the immigrants seeking asylum. With the new technology and more border patrol personnel we can do without a useless and expensive wall. We can do more agents/personnel w/o a wall, but you can't do a wall w/o more agents/personnel. so why bother with a presidential vanity project expensive that only his idiotic base wants?


I have a great high tech security system that alerts me to any intrusion on my property wherever I am on my smart phone. I can watch any intrusion in real time. By the time I can call police and they can respond, the intruder is long gone. A poor solution would be hiring enough police to carpet every inch of territory and pay for that. I would much prefer a wall like the celebrity’s and politicians have. The US system is now set up requiring those breaching the US borders to be admitted until their case for asylum can be evaluated. An open border and high tech detection invites the mobs swarming the border and simply being able to watch as it happens. We have enough welfare expense we can’t afford in our trillion dollar yearly deficit without taking on more.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
We have enough welfare expense we can’t afford in our trillion dollar yearly deficit without taking on more.


Like tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations we can't afford? Like corporate welfare (subsidies and price support) to farms, oil companies (depletion allowances, cheap exploration leases), etc? How about our bloated DOD budget that supports the MIC (Boeing/Northrop/Halliburton)?

Have you ever considered those programs as "welfare" or just poor people, unemployed, asylum seekers, refugees, and starving children?

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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:28 AM


LancairDriver- Spot on!
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
We have enough welfare expense we can’t afford in our trillion dollar yearly deficit without taking on more.


Like tax cuts for the wealthy we can't afford? Like corporate welfare to farms, oil companies, etc? Like our bloated DOD budget that supports the MIC? Have you ever considered those programs as "welfare" or just poor people, unemployed, asylum seekers, refugees, and starving children?


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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 11:34 AM


Exactly like those as well, John
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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 12:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
We have enough welfare expense we can’t afford in our trillion dollar yearly deficit without taking on more.


Like tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations we can't afford? Like corporate welfare (subsidies and price support) to farms, oil companies (depletion allowances, cheap exploration leases), etc? How about our bloated DOD budget that supports the MIC (Boeing/Northrop/Halliburton)?

Have you ever considered those programs as "welfare" or just poor people, unemployed, asylum seekers, refugees, and starving children?

John
[Edited on 1-10-2019 by John Harper]


I don’t think there is anyone who opposes the programs you mention any more than I do, unless it is Ron Paul.
Today it was reported the Pentagon is having to return som 27 billion to Congress that they couldn’t spend fast enough and have to return. What happens to this money? Unfortunately there isn’t a single district in the US that doesn’t have a politician beholden to supporting most of these programs. Ever watch the chaos when they try to close some military or other government facility? It is political suicide for the politician whose district contains one of these facilities to support closing it. A good start would be to get the sheep to stop believing the scare tactics employed to justify supporting 100+military bases around the world that they justify by hyping the idea we are in mortal danger from foreign entities. Cutting back drastically on this bloated budget could free up a fortune in US infrastructure projects that would employ legal citizens who want to work and cut down on the need for massive welfare payments.
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