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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 07:22 PM
Gasoline Shortage in Mexico


This may just be on the mainland, but gas pipe lines have been shut down due to theft. There are closed stations and very long lines at those that are not closed.

The CNN article can be found at ............
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/americas/mexico-gasoline-shor...

Does anyone know of gas shortages in Baja?




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[*] posted on 1-10-2019 at 07:38 PM
No shortage in Baja - Yet


http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=55555
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 07:52 AM


filled up in todo santos last night. i was the only customer in sight.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 09:30 AM


There is so much swapping of gas back and forth across the border that I doubt if stations along the frontera would be affected.
You may be burning Long Beach gas out of a Pemex and Pemex gas when you buy it in Anaheim
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 10:32 AM


I wish we had pure Pemex gas in California! This ethanol diluted junk is no good for the cars, gas mileage or the environment. I guess it is ok for corn farmers, however?



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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 10:36 AM


"There will be no retreat, not one step backward," Lopez Obrador said. "We are going to confront this problem." He had previously estimated that illegal taps drilled into government pipelines and theft from refineries and distribution depots cost Mexico $3 billion per day.


and we complain of short liters at the pump!:coolup:
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 10:37 AM


No gas pipelines to tap and steal from in most of Baja.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 11:14 AM


I'm going to give kudos to ALMO for trying to take on the endemic corruption and graft that has held Mexico down for too long.

This is Mexico's version of wall politics.

He shutdown the gasoline pipelines full of illegal hot taps, if public indignation is enough they will help the military patrol the pipelines until there integrity is renewed and everyone can get gas from only gas stations.




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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 12:09 PM
And we thought Trump was big on exaggeration


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
"There will be no retreat, not one step backward," Lopez Obrador said. "We are going to confront this problem." He had previously estimated that illegal taps drilled into government pipelines and theft from refineries and distribution depots cost Mexico $3 billion per day.


and we complain of short liters at the pump!:coolup:


$3 billion per day would cap out at something above $1 trillion per year.....
Whew, who knew that Mex gas was that profitable....

(And yeah, just to balance it out so this does not get US political, Trump has been know to stretch the truth a tad, on occasion.....)
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 12:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
"There will be no retreat, not one step backward," Lopez Obrador said. "We are going to confront this problem." He had previously estimated that illegal taps drilled into government pipelines and theft from refineries and distribution depots cost Mexico $3 billion per day.


and we complain of short liters at the pump!:coolup:


$3 billion per day would cap out at something above $1 trillion per year.....
Whew, who knew that Mex gas was that profitable....

(And yeah, just to balance it out so this does not get US political, Trump has been know to stretch the truth a tad, on occasion.....)


lol....yeah thats a big number. in the OP CNN story they reported 3 billion a YEAR. now, are they talking peso's or dollars?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 03:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
No gas pipelines to tap and steal from in most of Baja.

Then what is in that pipeline I ride next to east of Tecate?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 03:47 PM


"Most of Baja"... just not the couple miles parallel to Hwy. 2. ;)



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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 04:00 PM


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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 06:57 PM


David K is right on about the ethanol issue
Jay Leno wrote a blistering op/ed piece last year in Autoweek about the ravages of ethanol on older engines.
The modern ones are apparently o.k.
But if you have a macho motor, this crap will dry out your seals, gaskets, etc and you will soon be in re-build mode.
Meanwhile the price of corn goes straight up and the pobres who depend on it as a staple are really hurting
It especially hit hard in Central American countries where they live on a corn based diet.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 07:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TecateRay  
Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
No gas pipelines to tap and steal from in most of Baja.

Then what is in that pipeline I ride next to east of Tecate?


It's probably natural gas.

The areas with shortages must be areas where there are no foreign oil company filling stations. In my area, Arco has replaced about 30% of the Pemex stations. I was asking the gas jockey about the Arco gas this AM and he said the diesel going into my truck was from Texas.

When I lived in SoCal, it was rare for an Arco station to even carry diesel.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2019 at 08:09 PM
Pipeline


There is a 10" product pipeline from the Bulk plant in Rosarito to a distribution facility in Mexicali..........not sure of the route
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[*] posted on 1-21-2019 at 12:50 PM
Getting Gas can be a Blast


Read about this in the L.A. Times Sunday. Filling Jerry Cans from a 20-foot geyser while getting soaked seems a bit hazardous. One spark and everybody goes boom:

[https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-fuel-theft-casualties/mexico-pipeline-explosion-killed-89-pemex-defends-response-idUSKCN1PF1EC]
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[*] posted on 1-21-2019 at 12:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
There is a 10" product pipeline from the Bulk plant in Rosarito to a distribution facility in Mexicali..........not sure of the route


We saw it being installed along the south side of Hwy. 2 where the Laguna Salada road heads south.




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Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
Read about this in the L.A. Times Sunday. Filling Jerry Cans from a 20-foot geyser while getting soaked seems a bit hazardous. One spark and everybody goes boom:

[https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-fuel-theft-casualties/mexico-pipeline-explosion-killed-89-pemex-defends-response-idUSKCN1PF1EC]


they're thinking putting it in trucks is a solution.

http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/2/nacio...
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[*] posted on 1-21-2019 at 03:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I wish we had pure Pemex gas in California! This ethanol diluted junk is no good for the cars, gas mileage or the environment. I guess it is ok for corn farmers, however?


Re pemex being “better...”
Ethanol in gasoline does 3 things:
Increases octane, so the provider sells lower octane gas (“crappy” gas, would be your word) with octane bumped by addition of ethanol;
Burns cleaner (better air quality); and
Satisfies a political constituency (not a bad thing, every major industry has its political hook, thats life in usa, dont like it? Vote for the other guy :lol: )




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