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StuckSucks
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And then there's the Century 21 real estate signs every quarter mile.
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Pacifico
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Quote: Originally posted by Lee  |
Don't invest in more than you can walk away from. Why invest at all if the odds are against you?
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This is great advice. Advice that my dad told me years ago. I guess this applies to me. I have an investment in Mexico and in my opinion, it is worth
it. Our Baja pad has brought my family and friends so much happiness and enjoyment over the years that the financial risk is worth it. It's a risk,
but I can't imagine life without our special place in Baja. Nobody gets outta here alive, and you can't take it with you!
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Don't invest in more than you can walk away from. Why invest at all if the odds are against you?
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This is great advice. Advice that my dad told me years ago. I guess this applies to me. I have an investment in Mexico and in my opinion, it is worth
it. Our Baja pad has brought my family and friends so much happiness and enjoyment over the years that the financial risk is worth it. It's a risk,
but I can't imagine life without our special place in Baja. Nobody gets outta here alive, and you can't take it with you!
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A F'ing Men!
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Floatflyer
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We had a "hand shake" agreement with a small free range cattle rancher for 11 yrs. Little money changed hands, I would bring him tool kits, Levis,
trash pump, etc when he needed things. In return we parked our Airstream next to his casa, our old Bronco, a small metal shed, our 15 ft Gregor. His
wife would ask us whether or not we wanted flour or corn tortillas. I gave them fish as we caught them. When we came down he would pick us up at the
airstrip and we would pull our trailer down the adjoining arroyo and park on the beach. We got water from his well, slightly saline.
After 11 years he got kicked off his property due to a lawsuit brought by a rich MEXICAN attorney disputing the ownership of this 5 +/- acre ranchito
that my friend lived on for over 50 yrs! He lost in court and he left and we were forced to move as well.
This family was our family, we remained close friends despite no longer sharing a piece of property. It isn't just gringos that can get hosed in
Mexico.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Floatflyer | We had a "hand shake" agreement with a small free range cattle rancher for 11 yrs. Little money changed hands, I would bring him tool kits, Levis,
trash pump, etc when he needed things. In return we parked our Airstream next to his casa, our old Bronco, a small metal shed, our 15 ft Gregor. His
wife would ask us whether or not we wanted flour or corn tortillas. I gave them fish as we caught them. When we came down he would pick us up at the
airstrip and we would pull our trailer down the adjoining arroyo and park on the beach. We got water from his well, slightly saline.
After 11 years he got kicked off his property due to a lawsuit brought by a rich MEXICAN attorney disputing the ownership of this 5 +/- acre ranchito
that my friend lived on for over 50 yrs! He lost in court and he left and we were forced to move as well.
This family was our family, we remained close friends despite no longer sharing a piece of property. It isn't just gringos that can get hosed in
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That's a great great story! Where was this?
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Don't invest in more than you can walk away from. Why invest at all if the odds are against you?
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This is great advice. Advice that my dad told me years ago. I guess this applies to me. I have an investment in Mexico and in my opinion, it is worth
it. Our Baja pad has brought my family and friends so much happiness and enjoyment over the years that the financial risk is worth it. It's a risk,
but I can't imagine life without our special place in Baja. Nobody gets outta here alive, and you can't take it with you!
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Rancho Grande residents at Gonzaga Bay knew happiness once. Probably crying in their beer about now.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Paco Facullo
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"It is Better to Have Loved and Lost Than Never to Have Loved at All"
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by Floatflyer | We had a "hand shake" agreement with a small free range cattle rancher for 11 yrs. Little money changed hands, I would bring him tool kits, Levis,
trash pump, etc when he needed things. In return we parked our Airstream next to his casa, our old Bronco, a small metal shed, our 15 ft Gregor. His
wife would ask us whether or not we wanted flour or corn tortillas. I gave them fish as we caught them. When we came down he would pick us up at the
airstrip and we would pull our trailer down the adjoining arroyo and park on the beach. We got water from his well, slightly saline.
After 11 years he got kicked off his property due to a lawsuit brought by a rich MEXICAN attorney disputing the ownership of this 5 +/- acre ranchito
that my friend lived on for over 50 yrs! He lost in court and he left and we were forced to move as well.
This family was our family, we remained close friends despite no longer sharing a piece of property. It isn't just gringos that can get hosed in
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This is a sad story (not great) and unfortunately has happened to far to many people.
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by Floatflyer | We had a "hand shake" agreement with a small free range cattle rancher for 11 yrs. Little money changed hands, I would bring him tool kits, Levis,
trash pump, etc when he needed things. In return we parked our Airstream next to his casa, our old Bronco, a small metal shed, our 15 ft Gregor. His
wife would ask us whether or not we wanted flour or corn tortillas. I gave them fish as we caught them. When we came down he would pick us up at the
airstrip and we would pull our trailer down the adjoining arroyo and park on the beach. We got water from his well, slightly saline.
After 11 years he got kicked off his property due to a lawsuit brought by a rich MEXICAN attorney disputing the ownership of this 5 +/- acre ranchito
that my friend lived on for over 50 yrs! He lost in court and he left and we were forced to move as well.
This family was our family, we remained close friends despite no longer sharing a piece of property. It isn't just gringos that can get hosed in
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i know of several cases of local ranchers who have squatted multi-generationaly being booted off the family rancho.
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tobias
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You had one job paco!
I think that at one time, leases down here were a good deal where you could find many years of happiness, now not so much. Things seem to be changing.
I think at one time marriage was a good deal where you could find many years of happiness...
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BajaMama
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I assume the lease is $6,000 dollars? Per year? Not clear.
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Hook
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I doubt anyone would be squawking over a 200.00/year increase.
Someone wants that property cleared.
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SDROB
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Are these the houses next to Alfonsinas or are these Palapas past them closer to Punta Final? I can't imagine paying 2 grand a year for palapas let
alone 6 grand? Doesn't sound right to me? As someone stated it sounds like they want the area clear
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dizzyspots
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The annual lease was $2000...for the dirt...when they went to pay the lease...they were told"oh sorry, its now $6000!!!" This is to folks that have
been long term customers...some 6 years some, 16 years..some with minimal invest some with more...the point is...basic manners and customer service
and compassion would have been...hey, we're gonna make some changes, we need you guys out by ..... not like this...they also covered the entire
"seawall" from one end to the other with a huge manmade berm of sand....and the market...the market is empty of all food...only beverages and now has
a TEN ft high chainlink fence, topped with concertina wire and 20ft high light towers!!! Sad ending to what was a very warm and welcoming gateway to
paradise....fond memories and great freindships will survive!
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by dizzyspots | | The annual lease was $2000...for the dirt...when they went to pay the lease...they were told"oh sorry, its now $6000!!!" This is to folks that have
been long term customers...some 6 years some, 16 years..some with minimal invest some with more...the point is...basic manners and customer service
and compassion would have been...hey, we're gonna make some changes, we need you guys out by ..... not like this...they also covered the entire
"seawall" from one end to the other with a huge manmade berm of sand....and the market...the market is empty of all food...only beverages and now has
a TEN ft high chainlink fence, topped with concertina wire and 20ft high light towers!!! Sad ending to what was a very warm and welcoming gateway to
paradise....fond memories and great freindships will survive! |
 .....could it be it was all sold?
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MrBillM
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What the MARKET will Bear
While the Rancho Grande example may be an especially sharp one, it's not unusual and shouldn't be unexpected. The stark appreciation in
value for limited beachfront resources was seen in the San Felipe area long ago. 50 years back when a paved highway the length of Baja
became a serious reality, it was forecast that it would result in what we are now seeing.
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Paco Facullo
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San Felipe and points South had it's heyday many years ago.
It was once a paradise at a reasonable price but sadly now with the fish gone and the old timers dead or priced out it is but a shadow of the great
place it was...........
But IF you go there now, for the first time, you have no gauge to go by and therefor might think it is wonderful....
It's all a matter of perception, isn't it ?
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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Hook
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There are probably just as many that had legitimate rights, but were booted because they couldn't match what the other party paid the judge, through
the attorney.
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bajaric
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the land lease, a temporary way to enjoy a great place --
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thebajarunner
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Sounding a lot like some old "ejido tales" that I have heard
Can we hum a few bars of "Punta Banda Ejido, here we come"
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