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Rosarito tourism dead due to Trump’s manufactured border crisis
Article in the NY Times about how Rosarito tourism is dead due to Donald Trump’s manufactured border crisis scaring off the tourists...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/world/americas/rosarito-m...
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This so called "manufactured" crisis has absolutely nothing to do with the tourism drop. You Libs are a funny lot!
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Can you post the full article? I asked because I used up my quota for free articles from the NY Times.
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ROSARITO, Mexico — On a forlorn beach, a long line of riderless horses shuffled along, their wrangler unable to spot a single sightseer who might
want to hop on.
The vendors selling fruit and candy, or touting massages and tattoos, had relinquished their efforts to find customers and instead sprawled on the
sand.
Inside the landmark Rosarito Beach Hotel, only the backdrop sound of the ocean waves interrupted the silence.
The tourist town of Rosarito, Mexico, usually bustling with throngs of young Americans partying at crowded dance clubs, was desolate. While winter is
not peak season, residents say business has never been this bad.
“This is not normal, it’s all empty!” said Luis Pacheco, a waiter at Papas and Beer, a popular beachside bar.
“This used to be full of people,” he said, pointing at the rows of colorful wooden chairs on the sand, devoid of sunbathers.
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Those who depend on American visitors for their livelihood attribute the steep falloff in tourism here to the recent turmoil at the border in the
neighboring city of Tijuana, 16 miles north, where a migrant caravan from Central America arrived in November and hundreds remain gathered in
overcrowded shelters.
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“It has been isolated incidents that have created a distorted, negative image of the border, and we are all suffering from it,” said Ricardo
Argiles, the chief executive of the company that owns the Rosarito Beach Hotel, which has welcomed Hollywood luminaries like Orson Welles, Spencer
Tracy and Rita Hayworth in its long history.
To reach Rosarito, most visitors journey by car along roads with stunning vistas of sapphire-blue ocean waters and rugged cliffs.
Many consider the town an edgier, more cultured alternative to Tijuana, and until recently, young Californians flooded in on weekends and holidays,
enticed by the tasty seafood, beautiful beaches and energetic night life.
An unattended cart selling souvenirs on the main street in Rosarito.
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Meghan Dhaliwal for The New York Times
Many local residents share Mr. Argiles’s view that negative news reports of the situation at the border were deterring tourists from California from
heading south.
The incident that stirred the most fear among Southern Californians, Mr. Argiles said, was the shutdown of the San Ysidro Port of Entry last November
when a group of migrants stormed the area and agents from the United States Customs and Border Protection fired tear gas in response.
Since then, the Rosarito Beach Hotel has suffered a 60 percent drop in room occupancy, Mr. Argiles said, and the property had its worst December in
decades.
The few tourists who could be found seconded Mr. Argiles’s assessment of why Americans are staying away.
John Aslanyan, a pharmacist from San Diego and a regular visitor to Rosarito, said he couldn’t convince his fiancée to join him on this day trip to
the town.
She was nervous, he said, that there would be a repeat of November’s border closing — a worry shared by many other of his friends, he added. He
did persuade his sister to tag along on this jaunt.
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“This is the first time I am seeing this beach this empty,” said Mr. Aslanyan, the lone diner at a restaurant on Rosarito’s oceanfront.
Moises Espitia, an analyst with the Metropolitan Center of Economic and Business Information, a local research group, said the financial pain caused
by the border’s shutdown in November was felt particularly acutely in the services and tourism sector.
On the day of the shutdown, the more than 59,000 restaurants and hotels in the Tijuana and Rosarito Beaches metropolitan area suffered a collective
loss of $6.7 million, Mr. Espitia estimated.
“Events like the migrant caravan, without proper response or preventive measures, can have an economic impact in the daily lives of people in this
area,” he said.
The Central American migrants have generally been warmly received in Mexico. But as the tourist numbers decline, and the frustration and trepidation
rises in Rosarito and other tourist-dependent areas in Baja California, some local residents have begun to angrily blame the migrant caravan.
“They came here with an arrogant attitude, demanding things, and abused the help we offered them, arguing they are fleeing violence or poverty, but
we all are poor!” said Jorge Medina, a manager of the Bombay Beach nightclub in Rosarito.
He said his business had plummeted by almost 80 percent in the past two months.
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“Life is not easy for us either,” Mr. Medina added. “We have our own set of problems, including violence, and it is unfair that our lives are
disrupted because of them.”
Mr. Medina said he agreed with the harsher measures taken by the United States government to deter migrants, including the use of tear gas at the
border, and President Trump’s resolution to build an enhanced security wall.
Mr. Argiles, along with other hotel owners, is trying to send out a positive message through social media campaigns that Rosarito is ready and eager
to welcome back tourists.
“We have to recover from this,” he said.
Government data, not always reliable, points to only a 4 percent decrease in overall room occupancy in Rosarito last month compared with the same
month in 2017, and local officials argued that the recent drop in visitors cannot be single-handedly explained by immigration-related issues.
But with the Trump administration’s increasingly hostile anti-immigration narrative, officials are worried of longer-term economic losses.
“It definitely does not contribute to an ideal environment for tourism, and our economy heavily depends on it,” said Ives Lelevier, the under
secretary of tourism for the state of Baja California.
Abel Ortega, the owner of Villa Ortega’s restaurant in Puerto Nuevo, a community just to the south of Rosarito better known as “Lobster
Village,” remembered when the line of eager patrons would go around the building, and his wait staff couldn’t keep up with the demand for
deep-fried lobsters and margaritas.
Last year at this time, Mr. Ortega said he averaged 20 reservations a day but is down to two or three.
He looked outside where a worker was desperately trying to court the few passers-by to step inside. “It’s like a ghost town now,” Mr. Ortega
said.
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The NY Times is a Liberal rag, shouldn't it be free?
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So, what is your theory about it? It's always easy to criticize, so why not toss your hat in the ring and give us your divine pearls of wisdom about
this issue. Let them see the light of peer reviewed scrutiny!
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My login password is available, for a low monthly payment. Depending on your good credit.
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Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  |
So, what is your theory about it? It's always easy to criticize, so why not toss your hat in the ring and give us your divine pearls of wisdom about
this issue. Let them see the light of peer reviewed scrutiny!
John |
I'm not criticizing anything, simply making a statement. The drop in tourism started well before this so called manufactured border crisis.
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Other things to blame:
*The drug cartel (murders/kidnappings)
*Police hassles
*Long border lines
*Needing a passport
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Other things to blame:
*The drug cartel (murders/kidnappings)
*Police hassles
*Long border lines
*Needing a passport |
That makes to much sense, knock it off. Easier to blame President Trump.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Other things to blame:
*The drug cartel (murders/kidnappings)
*Police hassles
*Long border lines
*Needing a passport |
Nice one, DK! Just wanted to see others ideas. Definitely some likely factors to some degree as well.
Sorry to provoke the knee jerk "liberals are evil" paranoia. I hope these folks are sure look under their beds at night before retiring. A liberal
may be lying in wait to convert you. The HORROR!
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Yes, a critical statement. You criticize the statistic as unfounded and no factor at all in tourism. Don't be coy.
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Maybe the author of the article should spend some time in TJ, Rosarito and Ensenada and actually see what is going on.
From the article..." But with the Trump administration’s increasingly hostile anti-immigration narrative, officials are worried of longer-term
economic losses....." How about correcting that statement to anti-illegal immigration narrative, but why ruin a good story with facts.
Mexico's long term economic problems are compounded by the local, state and federal governments having to direct their resources to the illegals
instead of their citizens
If the Mexican government took a stand regarding the illegal border crossings across their southern border and having the illegals camp out in TJ,
Rosarito and Ensenada there wouldn't be a tourism problem.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Maybe the author of the article should spend some time in TJ, Rosarito and Ensenada and actually see what is going on.
From the article..." But with the Trump administration’s increasingly hostile anti-immigration narrative, officials are worried of longer-term
economic losses....." How about correcting that statement to anti-illegal immigration narrative, but why ruin a good story with facts.
Mexico's long term economic problems are compounded by the local, state and federal governments having to direct their resources to the illegals
instead of their citizens
If the Mexican government took a stand regarding the illegal border crossings across their southern border and having the illegals camp out in TJ,
Rosarito and Ensenada there wouldn't be a tourism problem.
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Another post making to much sense.
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Most of the migrants from the caravan, are acting in a lawful manner, they are trying to come through the lawful points of entry, and then trying to
claim asylum.
If anything it's the Trump administration that is breaking international and US immigration laws by trying to stop the migrants from coming onto US
soil in order to claim lawful asylum, and now the Trump administration is engaged in a deliberate slowdown because the federal court, slapped
Trump's hands, and told him he is not a king, and there are federal immigration laws he must follow, and if he wants to change the immigration laws,
he has to go through congress.
If a few migrants are trying to rush the fence, it's only because they figured out US immigration policy especially under this administration is
unfair.
Sorry, Mexico doesn't believe in wall, so Mexico will not put up a southern wall, and besides that wall do not work, and can not stop a determined
immigrant.
| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Maybe the author of the article should spend some time in TJ, Rosarito and Ensenada and actually see what is going on.
From the article..." But with the Trump administration’s increasingly hostile anti-immigration narrative, officials are worried of longer-term
economic losses....." How about correcting that statement to anti-illegal immigration narrative, but why ruin a good story with facts.
Mexico's long term economic problems are compounded by the local, state and federal governments having to direct their resources to the illegals
instead of their citizens
If the Mexican government took a stand regarding the illegal border crossings across their southern border and having the illegals camp out in TJ,
Rosarito and Ensenada there wouldn't be a tourism problem.
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A couple of years ago, I re-connected with an old girlfriend. In the year 2000, we spent a few weeks touring Baja, as far south as Loreto.
Although we had nothing but good experiences everywhere we went, she will not even consider going back, based on her perception that it is no longer
safe!
She came to that impression before Trump ever took office!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | A couple of years ago, I re-connected with an old girlfriend. In the year 2000, we spent a few weeks touring Baja, as far south as Loreto.
Although we had nothing but good experiences everywhere we went, she will not even consider going back, based on her perception that it is no longer
safe!
She came to that impression before Trump ever took office! |
And there are many more like her!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bubba |
I'm not criticizing anything, simply making a statement. The drop in tourism started well before this so called manufactured border crisis.
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You know what Bubba, I'm going to have to do the impossible and agree with you this time!
You're right, the slowdown to Rosarito, started before the Trump, caravan shutdown.
It actually started about the time Trump, ripped off all those Americans, with the " Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico, that failed luxury
condominium-hotel, that went belly up, and many Americans lost their shirts, and in fact lost all their real estate investment because they trusted
Trump, who allowed the builders to put Trump' s name on the Baja resort.
Rosarito, never recovered from the recession, cartel violence, passport rules, real estate scams, and not keeping up with the times with new
attractions, new hotels, upscale bars, and restaurants that would bring in both Mexicans and Americans.
However, I would say, the caravan, and border shutdown, really hurt Baja tourism the last few months.
Who could forget what Trump did with the Trump Ocean Resort in Baja. BTW, that's just a warm up, to what Trump, is going to do to the rest of us
living in the USA.
Trump Ocean Resort Baja: A foundation of lies - Univision
https://www.univision.com/univision-news/latin-america/trump...
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