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Where can I buy a 2 gallon toilet?
I've been putting up with a 1.6 gallon toilet for years and it needs to be replaced. Where I live, 1.6 gallons doesn't flush well. I want a 2 gallon
or more tank, but the bowl and bottom parts need to be replaced as well. In the U.S., 1.6 gallons is the best the manufacturers are allowed to make.
Any suggestions?
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Bob and Susan
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actually a 1.6 gallon toilet IS a 4 gallon toilet
buy a "fluidmaster flusher fixer kit" and replace "the guts"
put the float to the highest position before you install it
the lowest position is the 1.6 gallon position
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elfbrewery
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Interestink....
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  | actually a 1.6 gallon toilet IS a 4 gallon toilet
buy a "fluidmaster flusher fixer kit" and replace "the guts"
put the float to the highest position before you install it
the lowest position is the 1.6 gallon position |
Yep, I have my old "full flush" toilet levels set much lower than standard, seems to flush just fine and use half the water. Easier than using a
brick to displace some volume.
John
[Edited on 1-20-2019 by John Harper]
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What I don't like about newer toilets with less water in the bowl and per flush:
- if the walls in the bowl above the waterline are dry, "stuff" can stick to the walls....which requires another flush and or the brush.....so....no
water savings and more bowl scrubbing; 
- larger or more solid deposits sometimes need more water to get the deposit down the tube....even if you hold the lever down until tank empties....so
it is a good idea to have a plunger nearby...
I must say, I do prefer the taller toilets....easier on the knees.
Or is this just too much information?
Don't believe everything you think....
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elfbrewery
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Not too much info, I have a bucket (shower water) nearby to dump into the toilet when full flushing is needed. Between the 1.6 and another half-gallon
of water, I get the results -- woosh! I read a few years ago that it takes 2 gallons of water in 3 seconds to create enough pressure to fully flush a
toilet. That said, there are many opinions and individuals' experiences that may not agree. I just know that mine isn't the only one that has this
short-coming.
If it weren't for the fact that the toilet bowl is getting too stained to keep clean (and the base needs to be reconstructed, water shut-off valve
replaced, etc.) I would continue to use the saved shower water to help flush the toilet. However, if all this needs to be done, one would think
replacing the toilet with one that has a higher gallon per flush rating wouldn't be a big deal. Thus my quandary.
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I wonder if the Americans with Disabilities Act led to more of these taller toilets on the market? I don't recall seeing them as a kid. Maybe
regular folks started seeing these styles as more practical? Senior demographics?
Who standardized toilet seat heights in the first place? The Crapaloti?
John
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Here is a nifty, relatively easy trick you can try when you have a toilet that isn't flushing well. If you have hard water, or gritty water, all the
little holes under the toilet rim and the hole at the bottom which goes forwards get plugged up over time so there is not as much water flowing
through them when you flush as there should be.
Before you go to bed at night (or before you go out for the day if you're going to be gone several hours, turn off the water valve to the toilet.
Remove the tank lid.
Flush the toilet. Sponge up as much remaining water in the tank as you can. Make sure there's no water above the flapper.
Open the flapper and pour a cup of muriatic acid in there. (wear gloves and eye-protection and something over your mouth and nose)
Close the toilet seat lid.
In the morning, when you open the seat lid, you'll probably see a bunch of crud floating around in the bowl. That's all the crud that was built up in
the flushing holes.
Turn the water back on, let the tank fill, then flush and I'll bet you find the flush action a world of difference.
At this point you should also put that rubber glove back on and use a non-scratch scrubby to scrub around and over those rim holes to remove the last
bit of crud.
The muriatic acid will also remove the stains from the bowl.
Both my toilets weren't doing a full flush and this fix was a small miracle. Whoosh!
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...or spend a 100 bcks and buy a NEW toilet
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | Here is a nifty, relatively easy trick you can try when you have a toilet that isn't flushing well. If you have hard water, or gritty water, all the
little holes under the toilet rim and the hole at the bottom which goes forwards get plugged up over time so there is not as much water flowing
through them when you flush as there should be.
Before you go to bed at night (or before you go out for the day if you're going to be gone several hours, turn off the water valve to the toilet.
Remove the tank lid.
Flush the toilet. Sponge up as much remaining water in the tank as you can. Make sure there's no water above the flapper.
Open the flapper and pour a cup of muriatic acid in there. (wear gloves and eye-protection and something over your mouth and nose)
Close the toilet seat lid.
In the morning, when you open the seat lid, you'll probably see a bunch of crud floating around in the bowl. That's all the crud that was built up in
the flushing holes.
Turn the water back on, let the tank fill, then flush and I'll bet you find the flush action a world of difference.
At this point you should also put that rubber glove back on and use a non-scratch scrubby to scrub around and over those rim holes to remove the last
bit of crud.
The muriatic acid will also remove the stains from the bowl.
Both my toilets weren't doing a full flush and this fix was a small miracle. Whoosh!
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I've used some wet-or-dry fine sandpaper to remove the deposits in the bowl, doesn't seem to scratch the porcelain and works well with no caustic
chemicals. I think I've used 400 and 600 grit.
John
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if you have to use muric acid and sand paper someone is not cleaning your toilet correctly
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Not true. The water is really hard where I live- lots of calcium. Just the water sitting in the bowl overnight starts the deposits. And you can't
clean the holes that work the flush action without pouring something in the flapper which will remove the deposits.
And CLR doesn't work- I've tried it, believe me.
Buying a new toilet isn't the answer- a new toilet will have the same build up problems in the flushing holes as the old toilet did.
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Buy an American Standard brand - Champion collection - model Champion 4. Advertises they can flush golf balls.
I have tried many brands, this one works best.
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Current price at Home Depot in California is;
$178 for standard height round seat
$199 for tall version - elongated seat - best choice!!
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elfbrewery
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Thanks for the info. I'm all ears.
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Do you need this for Mexico or the US?
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elfbrewery
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Mexico.
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I know you're wanting a higher capacity tank, however, I just replaced some higher capacity toilets with these from Home Depot, and I'm really happy with the results. They're $1899 pesos / $99 USD, so definitely affordable, too.
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Sounds good, but experience here on the beach with undocumented, unknown plumbing lines tells me that I need more water to create enough pressure.
Although, I know some toilets compensate with some kind of pressure assist, but I don't know the market down here for that.
Thanks for the link.
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Understood. It's a serious subject that requires some serious thought.
Keep in mind that pressure assist toilets are loud. They're also prone to problems and can be expensive to repair.
If your waste pipe (that leaves the toilet) has drainage or vent issues, no toilet will solve that problem.
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