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fishbuck
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Angry pangas attack Sea Sheppard
Sounds like 20 or so pangas got frustrated that they can't poach and ruin the enviornment attacked Sea Sheppard.
Sounds like they got drunk and threw empty bottles and other trash.
Might have been a small harmless fire set.
Pretty comical...
Save the whales
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"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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JZ
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Link?
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AKgringo
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Comical?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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fishbuck
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Well, it wasn't exactly a well organized comando raid...
Typical drunk frustrated (fill in the blank) blowing off steam in a fairly harmless manner.
A few broken windows...
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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ABC is reporting molotov c-cktail fire on the hull
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-03/sea-shepherd-attacked...
You have to admit , the kid that tossed that rock had one hell of an arm.
Moving boat
Moving target
Getting hit with a water cannon
Still getting off a good shot.
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Wow!
So the Sea Shepard is now doing to these fishermen the same thing the Japanese whaling boats were doing to the Sea Shepards?
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fishbuck
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Yep
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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John Harper
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Hopefully the Dodgers sign him to a minor league contract.
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Hope this doesn't sound insensitive. Shoot them.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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willardguy
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which ones?
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sancho
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Local San Felipe fisherman, having been fishing for generations,
having a foreign flagged vessel determining there ability to
feed there families. Doesn't sound right to me. But neither
does driving a species to extinction. Not sure the Mex Govt wants non Mex citizens shooting there populace
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advrider
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Well said, Sancho! No easy fix or solution for a tough problem, lots of passion on both sides of the issue.
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Fishermen are not to be trusted as stewards of the resource. No more than loggers are to be trusted protecting trees. Sea Sheppard is here at the
request of the resource-limited Mexican government. They are enforcing the law.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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It is interesting that some folks think that a neighbour has no right to comment on or become involved in an issue of concern when a neighbour is
slowly ruining a neighbourhood through neglect, malpractice, or disrespect.
The planet is a global village so we ALL have a say in the concerns that come up.
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Local San Felipe fisherman, having been fishing for generations,
having a foreign flagged vessel determining there ability to
feed there families. Doesn't sound right to me. But neither
does driving a species to extinction. Not sure the Mex Govt wants non Mex citizens shooting there populace
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Don't believe everything you think....
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Don Jorge
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Sea Shepard appears to be a de facto mercenary.
Lost is the simple fact that fresh water flows from Mexico's northern neighbor via the Colorado River are practically nil. This has had a profound
effect on the ecology of the northern Sea of Cortez. Some would argue or hypothesize that this lack of fresh water is the real problem in the
northern Sea of Cortez, not poaching.
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
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San Felipe fishermen made their own beds. they overfished for years, and now their stocks are below a sustainable level.
So their fix is to go after an endangered fish - because the bladder of that fish is suposed to make Asians D#cks hard. and along the way, besides
wiping out the totuaba, they have pretty much extirpated the indiginous vaquita.
They are not fishing to sustain their families, they fish to try and get rich, but that never happens because they are pawns in the hands of the
misddlemen, who manipulate them to go to war against those trying to protect the resource.
after the totuaba is gone - what next - how do the fishermen make their living then?
San Felipes economic future depended on wise management of their resources, they blew it, and now have to live in the nest they fouled.
Oh yeah, one more thing: Turns out that legit San Felipe fisherman are being paid 2K a month to not fish . I could live pretty well in San felipe
on 2K per month, particulalry if I don't have to buy boat fuel, nets etc! doesn't sound like they should be starving!
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[Edited on 2-4-2019 by caj13]
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weebray
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | San Felipe fishermen made their own beds. they overfished for years, and now their stocks are below a sustainable level.
So their fix is to go after an endangered fish - because the bladder of that fish is suposed to make Asians D#cks hard. and along the way, besides
wiping out the totuaba, they have pretty much extirpated the indiginous vaquita.
They are not fishing to sustain their families, they fish to try and get rich, but that never happens because they are pawns in the hands of the
misddlemen, who manipulate them to go to war against those trying to protect the resource.
after the totuaba is gone - what next - how do the fishermen make their living then?
San Felipes economic future depended on wise management of their resources, they blew it, and now have to live in the nest they fouled.
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Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | San Felipe fishermen made their own beds. they overfished for years, and now their stocks are below a sustainable level.
So their fix is to go after an endangered fish - because the bladder of that fish is suposed to make Asians D#cks hard. and along the way, besides
wiping out the totuaba, they have pretty much extirpated the indiginous vaquita.
They are not fishing to sustain their families, they fish to try and get rich, but that never happens because they are pawns in the hands of the
misddlemen, who manipulate them to go to war against those trying to protect the resource.
after the totuaba is gone - what next - how do the fishermen make their living then?
San Felipes economic future depended on wise management of their resources, they blew it, and now have to live in the nest they fouled.
Oh yeah, one more thing: Turns out that legit San Felipe fisherman are being paid 2K a month to not fish . I could live pretty well in San felipe
on 2K per month, particulalry if I don't have to buy boat fuel, nets etc! doesn't sound like they should be starving!
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The cartels are the ones getting rich....and the head of the coop....Spend a little time the and see how Sunshine lives.
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte |
The cartels are the ones getting rich....and the head of the coop....Spend a little time the and see how Sunshine lives. |
Thanks for making my point for me. Exactly right, illegally fishing for totuaba doesn't make the fishermen rich, it makes the cartel rich. so why
would you as a fisherman take all the risk, and get so little of the reward?
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by norte |
The cartels are the ones getting rich....and the head of the coop....Spend a little time the and see how Sunshine lives. |
Thanks for making my point for me. Exactly right, illegally fishing for totuaba doesn't make the fishermen rich, it makes the cartel rich. so why
would you as a fisherman take all the risk, and get so little of the reward? |
Why? According to alm, they're dumb.
Or, an implied threat if fishermen don't cooperate.
Waiting for the fishermen to show up with rifles.
Maybe trying to earn a living. That's what Tio Tom says when I asked him why the gill nets were strung along Pedrito beach.
''They're just trying to earn a living.''
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F*ck it.
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