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bajadogs
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | No bajadogs, I do not see anything political with my observation that Sea Shephards are using water cannons... as did the Japanese against them. Two
wrongs don't make it right, does it? |
There is your fallacy Señior David. You call them two wrongs. Is Sea Shepherd wrong because they defended themselves while they defended the Sea of
Cortez? What is wrong with international law. What is your t-shirt size? They want to know. Don't be wrong. You are with us or you are with the
poachers. Read a book man.
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Glidergeek
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how do you make a panga angry enough to attack a boat bigger than a panga?
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MrBillM
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Sea Spirits and Surly Scows
Panga Possession by Fishery Fairies ?
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajadogs | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | No bajadogs, I do not see anything political with my observation that Sea Shephards are using water cannons... as did the Japanese against them. Two
wrongs don't make it right, does it? |
Is Sea Shepherd wrong because they defended themselves while they defended the Sea of Cortez?
You are with us or you are with the poachers. Read a book man. |
David has written that Sea Shepherd's use of water cannons on poachers was wrong. Amazing.
Just getting too politically correct on this forum.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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chuckie
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Aint that the truth....
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JoeJustJoe
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Yeah, it's pretty sad when someone stops a few inches short of throwing in with the poachers, instead of the Sea Shepherd crew, who are the good
guys, and a marine conservation organization, who is out to protect wildlife in the oceans, especially the large mammals.
Of course some from the extreme right, see Sea Shepherd, as no better than eco-terrorists, but personally I love groups like the Sea Shepherd, the
Counter-protesters, and I even like, more militant, anti-fascist, groups like Antifa, who is not afraid of using a little force like they did in
Charlottesville.
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David K
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Using a water cannon on people you disagree with instead of talking, is the event, not who is right or wrong.
Poaching is illegal and if law enforcement uses water instead of deadly force, then that is enforcing the law. I think I saw that Sea Shepherds had
been invited to help Mexican law enforcement? Were they given authority as to what means they could use against poachers?
Was the water cannon attack stopping poaching itself or just being used to hurt or mess with the fishermen zipping around the Rainbow Warrior or
whatever boat the Sea Shepherds were on? Were the fishermen only protesting the Sea Shepherds and not actually poaching? Was that okay to water-cannon
peaceful protesting?
I post things here mostly to get some of you to think with logic instead of just react with emotion. This is a Baja discussion board. I do hope
totuava (however you want to spell it) can return in numbers so fishermen can again catch them legally.. the same with turtles... a world with so many
varieties of great seafood that there is no danger of extinction from over-fishing.
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
I post things here mostly to get some of you to think with logic instead of just react with emotion. This is a Baja discussion board. I do hope
totuava (however you want to spell it) can return in numbers so fishermen can again catch them legally.. the same with turtles... a world with so many
varieties of great seafood that there is no danger of extinction from over-fishing. |
gosh what a wonderful service you provide here david! 
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David K
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Thank you... I do try!  I also get blamed for a bunch of things than
most, so it is a labor of love! LOL, It's all entertainment along with some education!
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bajabuddha
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Nomads have its own Joe The Plumber.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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fishbuck
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Isn't DK more like Huel Houser. A big friendly do boy, full of useless but interesting info. He travels around and allows us to live Baja vicariuosly.
And some of us even venture forth because of him.
Seriously. No one has been hurt yet.
Protesting is cool. But no when you do it with rocks and flaming bottles filled with gas.
Someone stated there is/was a Mexican Navy member onboard Sea Shepard. I'm sure he was armed.
So very good restraint shown by Sea Shepard/Mexican Navy.
Thank you for all the lively comment on this issue.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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David K
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My wife says I am a plethora of useless information... when I go on about history and such. LOL
The emails and u2u messages of appreciation keep me providing the Baja that I continue to live with, I grew up with, and of the time before I existed.
Stuff that should be known by anyone who loves the place. To know Baja is to love Baja!
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bajadogs
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That is not true. The uselessness is your political horse plop. Just stop. Please stop! Read a paper or a book. And if you must opine please GO OFF
TOPIC! Have a nice day señor.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
I post things here mostly to get some of you to think with logic instead of just react with emotion. This is a Baja discussion board. I do hope
totuava (however you want to spell it) can return in numbers so fishermen can again catch them legally.. the same with turtles... a world with so many
varieties of great seafood that there is no danger of extinction from over-fishing. |
That you are the only one who uses logic and fact .....well.....defies Logic.
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David K
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I am not the only one. But so many live off drama... too bad.
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caj13
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Using a water cannon on people you disagree with instead of talking, is the event, not who is right or wrong.
Was the water cannon attack stopping poaching itself or just being used to hurt or mess with the fishermen zipping around the Rainbow Warrior or
whatever boat the Sea Shepherds were on? Were the fishermen only protesting the Sea Shepherds and not actually poaching? Was that okay to water-cannon
peaceful protesting?
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oh yeah, and "there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville" - right David!
Trying to wordsmith your way to finding cover for criminals - all that does David, is tell me you KNOW the truth!
SO now its all about you finding a way to do enough mental gymnastics so you don't have to confront yourself with the truth, which is in this case
obviously in direct conflict with your personal belief and agenda!
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MrBillM
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Worth Remembering
"The CREAM rises to the TOP"
But ..................
"Shit FLOATS, too"
Then, there's "Those who LEAD bring an Ass along."
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