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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 10:15 AM
Those with a conscience....


While researching the concept of "personal referential incoherence" (on a different stream of curiousity), the focus on the the word " "Conscience" arose....

It is interesting to understand the development of our languages and the meaning of words:

[CONSCIENCE (n.)

c. 1200, "faculty of knowing what is right," originally especially to Christian ethics, later "awareness that the acts for which one feels responsible do or do not conform to one's ideal of right," later (late 14c.) more generally, "sense of fairness or justice, moral sense."

This is from Old French conscience "conscience, innermost thoughts, desires, intentions; feelings" (12c.) and directly from Latin conscientia "a joint knowledge of something, a knowing of a thing together with another person; consciousness, knowledge;" particularly, "knowledge within oneself, sense of right and wrong, a moral sense," abstract noun from conscientem (nominative consciens), present participle of conscire "be (mutually) aware; be conscious of wrong," in Late Latin "to know well," from assimilated form of com "with," or "thoroughly" (see con-) + scire "to know," probably originally "to separate one thing from another, to distinguish," related to scindere "to cut, divide," from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split" (source also of Greek skhizein "to split, rend, cleave").

The Latin word is probably a loan-translation of Greek syneidesis, literally "with-knowledge." The sense development is perhaps via "to know along with others" (what is right or wrong) to "to know right or wrong within oneself, know in one's own mind" (conscire sibi). Sometimes it was nativized in Old English/early Middle English as inwit. Russian also uses a loan-translation, so-vest, "conscience," literally "with-knowledge."
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When I super-impose this concept over BN conversations about climate change, protecting the environment, current US policies regarding immigration, etc it offers a "filter" for sorting positions taken by folks....

Beliefs with a knowledge base vs simple opinions.....what a concept.

Just found it interesting and challenging to my own thinking....:light:




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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 10:18 AM


Cogito, ergo sum.

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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 11:19 AM
Canada: moral leader of the World


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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/opinion/canada-trudeau-sa...




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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 11:26 AM


Conscience?
Are you trying to introduce new ideas to the US?




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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 11:31 AM
Those in the KNOW


IF those who espouse contrary positions actually (incorrectly) believe what they're saying, aren't they acting in good conscience ?

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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 11:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Conscience?
Are you trying to introduce new ideas to the US?


Yeah, I know it's a stretch....but....;)

It's important for us to think about "how" we think, not just "what" we think.





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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 01:54 PM


Some people are just Pseudo Intellectual Mountebank Demagogues.
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  


Yeah, I know it's a stretch....but....;)

It's important for us to think about "how" we think, not just "what" we think.



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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 03:05 PM
The Problem with Conscience ......................


Throughout history, among other issues, quite a few people have sincerely believed that they were courageously defending their "one true" religion or their own (superior and/or endangered) race/ethnicity when they performed or accepted what most consider truly evil actions.
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[*] posted on 2-7-2019 at 05:57 PM


Here's another thought for thought..... I have always maintained the definition of "consciousness" is a triumvirate (triangle) of three basic tenets.....

Awareness, periphery, and conscience. = CONSCIOUSNESS. :light:

Awareness: The ability to see what is directly in front of you and to ascertain its importance relevant to your being/actions.

Periphery: The ability to sense not only what is in front of you, but the things/actions going on around you and your influence/impact upon things related to your being/actions, as in a pebble dropped into a pond.

Conscience: See all above. :rolleyes:

More food for thought; the difference between boogers and Brussels sprouts? Kids won't eat Brussels sprouts. :P




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