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Yes
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/antioxxo-wants-the-stores-b...
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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At the very least, the oxxo's could move into existing buildings thus preserving the colonial architecture.
In Ocean Beach, a community in San Diego, no big business was allowed inside the neighborhood so that small ma and pa shops could survive. Even the
gas stations are one of a kind. At the entrance to the neighborhood is a JACK IN THE BOX....which has been there forever and was probably the
impetus to keep O B (Ocean Beach) so different from other parts of the city.
Amazingly, there is an organic food cooperative that has been there since the 70's when I went to college at UCSD. Unfortunately, in recent years
there has been a huge impact with homeless there too.
Oaxaca is such a special place, I do wish the locals luck in preserving that special feel it has.
Thanks for sharing weebray!!
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I wonder if Oxxo stores are company owned, franchise operations, or a mixture of both?
It is hard to imagine a business model that would put two or three stores in direct competition with each other.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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My roommate told me the new CaliMax opened in Puerto Nuevo. She said it was packed with customers. That's probably going to hurt some of the local
small businesses as well.
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The story of hurting the local mom and pop stores when a chain store moves in has been around for a long time. That was the knock on Walmart yet go
into any Walmart and they are packed with customers, probably the same people complaining about them. People like a good bargain, they like to save
money. The union tried to stop a Walmart from being opened here in Bakersfield, the one at 99 and Panama Lane, and after several years it finally
opened and they always have a lot of shoppers especially when the welfare checks arrive.
Interesting thing about prices at Walmart and Sams Club. My printer uses a #61 set of cartridges. At Sams Club a combo set is like $51, at Walmart it
is $43, been that way since I've had the printer about 5 years now.
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OXXO is owned by FEMSA (Coca Cola)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OXXO
opening stores close to each other is a proven strategy to keep the competition away
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weebray
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  | At the very least, the oxxo's could move into existing buildings thus preserving the colonial architecture.
In Ocean Beach, a community in San Diego, no big business was allowed inside the neighborhood so that small ma and pa shops could survive. Even the
gas stations are one of a kind. At the entrance to the neighborhood is a JACK IN THE BOX....which has been there forever and was probably the
impetus to keep O B (Ocean Beach) so different from other parts of the city.
Amazingly, there is an organic food cooperative that has been there since the 70's when I went to college at UCSD. Unfortunately, in recent years
there has been a huge impact with homeless there too.
Oaxaca is such a special place, I do wish the locals luck in preserving that special feel it has.
Thanks for sharing weebray!! |
Good ideas here Blanca, thanks. If some effort was made to integrate it would be helpful. "Oxxo is not a franchise. Most stores are operated under a
commission contract and others directly, for the purpose of maintaining absolute control over products and service." This "control" includes an
attempt to control the market and I cannot feel all warm and fuzzy about the Coca Cola company controlling the market. They already control more
deaths of Mexicans than illegal drugs do.
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| Quote: Originally posted by weebray |
Good ideas here Blanca, thanks. If some effort was made to integrate it would be helpful. "Oxxo is not a franchise. Most stores are operated under a
commission contract and others directly, for the purpose of maintaining absolute control over products and service." This "control" includes an
attempt to control the market and I cannot feel all warm and fuzzy about the Coca Cola company controlling the market. They already control more
deaths of Mexicans than illegal drugs do.
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Weebray, I didn't look up the requirements of an Oxxo franchise, or whatever you're calling it, but your quote, " for the purpose of maintaining
absolute control over products and service," is pretty much the very definition of a franchise, and something that a company like McDonald's,
7-Eleven, and I suspect Oxxo, does using the same cookie cutter to keep their businesses running the same way no matter where they are.
Coca Cola, is not controlling the market in Mexico, FEMSA, is a wholly owned beverage company in Mexico, Coke, Coca-Cola FEMSA, is a subsidiary of
FEMSA, which is also the largest franchise of Coca-Cola, and bottler operation.
Exactly how is Coca Cola, controlling more deaths of Mexicans than illegal drugs? Oh let me guess, it's makes then porkers? If so I suspect Coke
isn't the only drink or food to blame.
Well I applaud some cities cracking down on Walmart, Amazon, and OXXO, for asking for corporate welfare, and only offering slave wages in return.
It's just sometimes I can't stand those small markets and small restaurants, that offer a limited supply of over prices items, and sometimes I have
have the big chain stores and restaurants, so hopefully these cities can find a nice balance.
I'm also more addicted to Diet Coke, than I am to liquor. If I go more than 2 days without a Diet Coke, I'm crawling the walls.
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I looked up Oxxo in CA and wow we have one in Buttonwillow west of Bakersfield. I think I'll drive out there and check it out.
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TMW, you might want to check out the business from a distance before you drive out there. There is a chain of cleaners using that name.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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We were concerned a few years ago when a Super Ley opened in Loreto that it would put all the little places out of business. Turns out that the other
places "upped their game" with cleaner stores, more items and good service. Now everyone is doing fine. Competition and a free market place does
work.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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| Quote: Originally posted by ncampion | | We were concerned a few years ago when a Super Ley opened in Loreto that it would put all the little places out of business. Turns out that the other
places "upped their game" with cleaner stores, more items and good service. Now everyone is doing fine. Competition and a free market place does
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Your post sounds more like an advertisement for Milton Friedman, free markets, or Chilean economics, than it does for what typically happens when big
box corporations like, Amazon, Walmart, McDonald's, or the example here,Oxxo moves into the city with the predatory practices of putting other
smaller mom and pop stores out of business, and polluting the landscape with their ugly buildings and logos.
Maybe, free market economics works in Loreto, but I doubt it works in most cities around the world, especially in Mexico, with their monopolized
prices on many goods and services.
I'm just looking for balance, and I don't want to see the small stores put out of business, but I also like the convenience of an Oxxo or the cheap
prices of Walmart, but cities should limit them, and never give these companies corporate welfare.
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| Quote: Originally posted by ncampion | | We were concerned a few years ago when a Super Ley opened in Loreto that it would put all the little places out of business. Turns out that the other
places "upped their game" with cleaner stores, more items and good service. Now everyone is doing fine. Competition and a free market place does
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EXACTLY -- competition is good for us consumers. I'm not interested in subsidizing an inferior product or service.
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Competition hogwash. You are entitled to your uninformed opinion but I hate to break the news to you this has nothing to do with fair competition.
Shed the stars and stripes diaper and come to the party. Sheesh.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by weebray |
Good ideas here Blanca, thanks. If some effort was made to integrate it would be helpful. "Oxxo is not a franchise. Most stores are operated under a
commission contract and others directly, for the purpose of maintaining absolute control over products and service." This "control" includes an
attempt to control the market and I cannot feel all warm and fuzzy about the Coca Cola company controlling the market. They already control more
deaths of Mexicans than illegal drugs do.
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Weebray, I didn't look up the requirements of an Oxxo franchise,
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Interesting, you first tell us you don't know what the hell you're talking about, then you tell us how it is.
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| Quote: Originally posted by weebray | | Competition hogwash. You are entitled to your uninformed opinion but I hate to break the news to you this has nothing to do with fair competition.
Shed the stars and stripes diaper and come to the party. Sheesh. |
Uniformed opinion?
Campion LIVES in Loreto.....on the ground...owns a home here.
YOU DON'T....
The mom and pops stores in Loreto ARE JUST FINE, cleaner stores, fresher produce, competive pricing.
If YOU lived here, you too would know this.
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Your argument would be stronger if you just said, " survival of the fittest," because the "free market" system, is pretty much a myth when the big
boys start playing in the field in either the US or Mexico.
How does a mom & pop store, compete with a Walmart, Amazon, or even convenience stores, like Oxxo, when the big boys, are paying legal and
illegal bribes, get corporate welfare, and other sweetheart deals to come into the cities and then pay slave wages. Where is the level playing field?
If the US and Mexico government is not careful, a store like Oxxo, will spread like cancer, and dot the landscape with ugly companies logos. There
goes the charm of a beautiful unique city, that now looks like all the other cities with the same franchise operations.
A store like Walmart, will crush the local competition by selling a popular item at a lost until it puts it's competition out of business, and then
it will raise the prices.
Thank God, strong US Leadership, broke up the robber barons monopolies last century, and who could forget what Mexico President Lorenzo Cárdenas did
to Standard Oil Company. It's the pride of Mexico, when they think back when Mexico nationalize its oil industry!
I guess I'm not as radical, as Weebray, who sounds like he wants to regulate CocaCoca, because he thinks they are killing people, but if companies are
not careful, Amazon, may be the next company that gets broken up after his ex-wife gets through with Bezos, and stores like Oxxo, better control their
growth, or they will get regulated and kicked out new cities they want to move into.
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Did you not read what the Loreto resident said... they are doing fine, and improved their service to consumers because of the competition.
Hurray for the people!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Did you not read what the Loreto resident said... they are doing fine, and improved their service to consumers because of the competition.
Hurray for the people! |
You mean that's what they claim, don't you?
This is why I don't always go by so-called anecdotal personal experiences that may very well be clouded through their personal lens or agenda.
The fact is these big box companies not only put the mom and pop stores out of business, all over the world, they even put stores like Sears out of
business.
So lets go by the averages of different cities, than just one city in Mexico, that may or may not be accurate.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
Your argument would be stronger if you just said, " survival of the fittest," because the "free market" system, is pretty much a myth when the big
boys start playing in the field in either the US or Mexico.
How does a mom & pop store, compete with a Walmart, Amazon, or even convenience stores, like Oxxo, when the big boys, are paying legal and
illegal bribes, get corporate welfare, and other sweetheart deals to come into the cities and then pay slave wages. Where is the level playing field?
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Walmart and amazon can pay low wages because their employees can go on food stamps to get their meal money.
True.
Most Walmart and amazon warehouse workers are forced to be PT and not receive benis, and so they are on food stamps, get health care subsidized from
govt, get sec 8 housing, etc.
Walmart is the prime example of socialism, the family is filthy rich because taxpayers pay the living wage that Walmart does not pay.
The USA is not capitalist. It is a quasisocialist system where corporations are taking all the govt handouts.
I a all for the green new deal, and am all for burning down the system run for corporate America.
Revolution now!
Gots to cleanse society of the corporate leaches and the low-income dumb bunnies that support GOP. Send ‘em all to Mexico!
[Edited on 3-2-2019 by mtgoat666]
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