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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 03:48 PM


I loved the place also. Landed there many times and really enjoyed just wandering around




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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 04:12 PM


Ken, would you mind sharing what those experiences were like and who you interacted with??? Did you know Josefina Zuñiga(sp?) or Fred Hampe?




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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 04:29 PM


David I checked my log and the last time I was there was in 1981 (flying). 39 years fuzzies the memory but I am pretty sure I met Josefina.. The other name doesn’t ring any bells. I never overnighted there but I have fond memories of the place. On our few driving trips later we would stay at the hotel in Catavina and drive over for a visit. Sorry, wish I had more connected brain cells.

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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 04:35 PM


One memory I do have left is how bizarre it was to have a paved airstrip in that location. Wish I had spent more time checking out the history.



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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 04:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Ken, would you mind sharing what those experiences were like and who you interacted with??? Did you know Josefina Zuñiga(sp?) or Fred Hampe?


February 2019 - I was asked to pay a small fee to enter the trail to Mision Santa Maria, or 'Mission Impossible'. I don't take last names while on vacation, so I don't know if it was a Zuniga that I paid for multiple vegetarian bean burritos, but our group was in and out by dusk. Fred Hampe? Is that the gentleman who lives on the premises nearby (from New Mexico)?

Our run after a day-long rain storm down Mission Impossible trail looked like this:







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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 05:15 PM


Thanks Ken...
I am interested with history of the ranch and it is a rich one!
The runway (and ranch driveway form Mex 1) was paved in late 1973 with the highway paving or just after as a "gift" to Josefina from her new friend the president of Mexico (Luis Echeverria) after he spent the night at Rancho Santa Ynez during his tour through Baja seeking a project to improve the peninsula.

Pilots have loved Santa Ynez due to its location and as a key checkpoint and pitting spot for the first Mexican (Baja) 1000 races (1967-1973). Josefina knew what was important in the remote area to bring in business and help pilots in need.

Ken, great photos!
Fred and Josefina both died a few years ago, Josefina first in the late 80s, I think? The man you are thinking of is Ralph, who lives by the arroyo on adjoining property to the north. He has a HAM Radio and has been known to help those in need after attempting to reach Mission Santa María. I have never met him... I guess because I have never been in need?

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[*] posted on 10-12-2020 at 05:19 PM


In April, 1978 we flew into Alfonsina's for yet another camping trip. No beer in the cantina. So at the direction of Luis, we flew to Santa Ynes, bought cases of Bohemia at the Catavina hotel, returned to Alfonsina's, got our money back from the kitchen staff and then repurchased the beer from the cantina. Could not have been a better trip!
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Quote: Originally posted by MontyF  
In April, 1978 we flew into Alfonsina's for yet another camping trip. No beer in the cantina. So at the direction of Luis, we flew to Santa Ynes, bought cases of Bohemia at the Catavina hotel, returned to Alfonsina's, got our money back from the kitchen staff and then repurchased the beer from the cantina. Could not have been a better trip!

Great story!!! 1978!! :light:




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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 06:15 AM


One trip into Mission Santa Maria we made a point of driving over to talk to a fellow Ham, Ralph. Spent much of the day with Ralph showing us around and discussing the road into the Mission. He drove a fat tired motorcycle back to the mission regularly, in fact, the tracks were all over it when we drove in. I remember his showing us the well he dug by hand for water. Very friendly guy with impressive history.
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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 08:41 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thanks Ken...
I am interested with history of the ranch and it is a rich one!
The runway (and ranch driveway form Mex 1) was paved in late 1973 with the highway paving or just after as a "gift" to Josefina from her new friend the president of Mexico (Luis Echeverria) after he spent the night at Rancho Santa Ynez during his tour through Baja seeking a project to improve the peninsula.

Pilots have loved Santa Ynez due to its location and as a key checkpoint and pitting spot for the first Mexican (Baja) 1000 races (1967-1973). Josefina knew what was important in the remote area to bring in business and help pilots in need.

Ken, great photos!
Fred and Josefina both died a few years ago, Josefina first in the late 80s, I think? The man you are thinking of is Ralph, who lives by the arroyo on adjoining property to the north. He has a HAM Radio and has been known to help those in need after attempting to reach Mission Santa María. I have never met him... I guess because I have never been in need?

Other Nomads or lurkers, I would enjoy hearing your experiences at the epic spot in central Baja! email: info*at*vivabaja.com
Gracias!!!


The story at the time of paving was that the government surveyors had not properly laid out the course of the new highway and failed to get permission from Josefina for installing the new pavement across a corner of her rancho.
So, in exchange they paved the runway as payment for the road easement.

Both good stories, who know the truth...
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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 11:16 AM


That would be a way of Echeverria to justify his 'gift'! LOL





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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 11:48 AM


The runway paving has disintegrated over the years since 1973 and the strip is probably not registered?

It has a lot of history!
Here it is in books over the years:

1967:


1972:


1974:


1988:


1996:








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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 03:52 PM


Speaking of history...
1982, my dad and I at Rancho Santa Ynez, on our fishing trip to/from Laguna Manuela. Also, a Google Earth view of the runway, looking east:


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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 07:05 PM


The runway had dirt berms across it some years back
Narco issues no doubt

As a real estate developer I can tell you that asphalt needs constant use or it deteriorates.
Seems contrary, but lack of constant compacting makes the black stuff crumble.
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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 07:23 PM


We stop here anytime going down highway 1 to Abreojos. Ralph usually shows up and tells us stories about the good old days. The ranch is operational, but the heffa and her guy are about the nicest people you could meet . $8 or $9 bucks a night, water at the spicot and sanitarios that are not bad. A beautiful valley of peace and silence. Here is a picture of Ralph and my wife this year:



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Ralph pioneered the search and rescue operation in Borrego many years ago. He used 2 meter ham radio from his plane to direct ground operations to people in trouble in the desert. He still looks young for his age and fit.

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The last period of government registration approval was Feb 2004-Feb 2009. Back then it was a 5 year period. Likely this time it will be extended to 15 years, like Punta Final and some others. The Mexican Government lists the airport IATA code as SIN and spells it Santa Ines.:light:

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[*] posted on 10-14-2020 at 08:42 PM


Inés is the correct spelling for the lady's name. If no accent, then using a 'z' makes the strong sound, as in Cortez for Cortés.

The desire of the owner to use a Y and the Z is it why maps show that. Oh, and yes, on one ranch sign it is spelled Inez! LOL




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[*] posted on 10-15-2020 at 08:31 AM
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What ever happened to "Got a Peso"?
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Quote: Originally posted by ch47pilot  
What ever happened to "Got a Peso"?


I wouldn't know what to search for, but I recall someone on this forum reported that he wound up north of the border for medical treatment.

That was a couple of years ago, and I have no idea of who, what, where and when, or even if there is any truth to it.




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[*] posted on 10-15-2020 at 09:17 AM


Search Gotta Peso... I bumped up a 5 year old post by woody with a photo of him. Paulina has photos, too... as I recall?

5 y/o post with photo: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=81266

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