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joerover
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not more dangerous than before¡??¿
Two men were murdered in Rosarito last night
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92376
Los Barriles Robbery
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92368
Los Cocos robbery
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92225
Armed Robbery Punta San Jose Lighthouse 4am
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxVlN-LzIks
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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David K
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You should hear the nightly news in most American cities! 
Bad stuff happens anywhere... Do you stop enjoying life and remain locked inside your own home because of it?
The hope (I guess) is reporting the bad news will bring about a positive change.
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mtgoat666
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Violence in USA makes violence in Mexico OK ?
That argument doesn’t fly very well with gringo or Mexicans.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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No, the point is that there isn't only crime in Baja... it exists in your own community where you don't stop doing what you want because of it.
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pacificobob
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | No, the point is that there isn't only crime in Baja... it exists in your own community where you don't stop doing what you want because of it.
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people are more comfortable with violence while in a familiar environment. (home) when placed in a foreign place the same event the can ignore at home
will frighten them in the less familiar place. fear is immune to logic. if gringos want to be afraid, let them be afraid.
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David K
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Agree... Be Very Afraid!
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Bajaboy
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Hence the National Emergency,....
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David K
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So, you leave your front door open at night?
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JZ
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Live has passed the op by. Sad.
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4x4abc
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I think any increase in violence against campers/surfers and campo residents should make us very alert. Not so much Mexicans killing Mexicans in big
urban places.
Whether it is indeed an increase in violence (Bahia de los Angeles murders, Los Cocos armed robbery, Punta San Jose armed robbery, Los Barriles armed
robbery) or whether information is flowing faster today, is hard to say.
But it certainly seems a bit much for less than a year.
I have expats friends in La Paz arming themselves. Not a route that I would go - but it highlights the amount of fear spreading.
Harald Pietschmann
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Bubba
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | No, the point is that there isn't only crime in Baja... it exists in your own community where you don't stop doing what you want because of it.
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Winner!
Making America Great Again
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pacificobob
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rapists, drug dealers and rapists coming to a suburb near you!
have i mentioned rapists?
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MrBillM
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Danger Danger
There is a HIGH likelihood that Gringo Tourists traveling in Afghanistan will encounter violent crime.
Those planning a trip to Kabul should take that into consideration.
OK, that's silly, BUT .....................
Comparing crime stats affecting foreign tourists in Mexico to areas of U.S. cities where NO Tourist would venture is
ABSURD.
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BajaBlanca
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I have decided to play to LOCA BLANCA if I have no out. Haven't told Les yet about that idea!
And if I have an out, I have an escape plan to exit the house, fast, without being seen.
It is much better to be aware of what is happening around us, whether crime has increased or not.
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Bajaboy
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Oh you got me there David....but I don't lock it during the day
In Bahia Asuncion we don't lock our doors....
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MrBillM
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At Home in the E.U.
The (would-be) intruders are unsure what they may encounter beyond the door.
Much less so in Mexico.
In my home, they'd likely be outgunned.
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AKgringo
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Although I don't have as much time south of the border as many of the followers of this forum, I have been observing changes in Mexico since 1957 (I
was ten).
Seeing bars on the windows of most houses was new to me, and we soon learned that if you love it , lock it! Aside from petty thefts, we never had any
truly bad experience, but there were areas that we were advised to avoid.
In any population, north or south of the border, there are criminals. The larger the population, the larger the number of criminals.
The wild card thrown into the deck, is that drug use in the Mexican culture has increased, and has changed the nature of the criminals!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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mtgoat666
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See no evil
Hear no evil
Speak no evil
Dont be evil
Stick your head in the sand, and follow the golden rule.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Barry A.
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Here is my anecdotal take: I and my Family have ALWAYS locked our doors and windows, both during the day and at night, both in Mexico and in the
USA. I ALWAYS use "THE CLUB" wheel-lock on my vehicles left outside, and ALWAYS lock them up at night. Other than a license plate stolen several
years ago, I have NEVER had ANYTHING stolen from me in 81 years.
CONCLUSION: It pays to be careful, and heed warning info. Thanks to all who provide information like this.
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AKgringo
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And this has what to do with the original topic? Come on guys, let this topic run it's course without a hijack!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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