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Santiago
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Need advice on bed roll
5'-10", 205 lbs, 68 years old.
I used to sleep on rocks and wake up ready to roll, now I'm just pleased to wake up.
I took my 5 year-old grandson camping last summer and dug out my old sleeping mat, the kind that self-inflates when you unroll it. Wow, it was not a
good night's rest. Last night while eating pizza after his baseball game, he started asking about going camping again. I need to upgrade but the
camping sites have a gillion options so thought I would ask those of you who camp, what would you recommend?
Thanks
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David K
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Air mattress for the win!
If you have a Tacoma with 110v outlet in the bed, just plug in and inflate. Otherwise, an inverter is needed that plugs into the cigarette lighter.
Or, one that inflates with a hand pump or your mouth...
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Don Jorge
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A good cot, a good pillow and the right bag for the conditions. A pad on top of the cot can be used.
Cots imo are better than air matresses, much better. No leaks, no pump required and cots put one off of the ground.
Off the ground helps keep crawly things away and makes getting in to and up from the bed so much easier.
I use this one for car camping: https://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Outfitter-Patented-Inclu...
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BajaBlanca
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[I used to sleep on rocks and wake up ready to roll, now I'm just pleased to wake up.]
Hahahaha Ain't it the truth!
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bajaguy
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http://kamprite.com/shop/tents/tri-fold-series/kamp-rite-ori...
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David K
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Very true, I also have a cot for single nights, quick set up. I used both during all my nights researching the road guide, often the cot if I was only
going to be there one night. However, the air mattress is warmer and more comfortable and you can move around... the cot doesn't allow for much
movement.
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John Harper
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I use a Klymit pad, inflates in 10-12 breaths, which is nice at high altitudes. I bought an ultralight insulated pad for backpacking, but it works
great on my cot as well. One nice thing about the Klymit is they are 23" wide versus the 20" normal size. Very comfortable pad and I am a side
sleeper, no problems bottoming out.
There are a lot of models, I have the Static V Lite Insulated, 19 oz, R factor of 4.4. I've used it for almost 4 years now (70+ nights) with no
problems or leaks. Very happy customer. You can actually feel it get warmer after you lay on it, the insulation is like mylar and reflects your heat
back to you.
You can get factory refurbished pads on Ebay for about half price new. With factory warranty. That's what I just recommended to a friend.
Regular air mattresses will suck the warmth from you, unless there is some insulation. Like a hammock, nothing but cold air above and below.
John
[Edited on 3-17-2019 by John Harper]
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weebray
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Therm-a-Rest extended my camping days nicely. No need to inflate, it is automatic. Efficient thermal barrier and excellent comfort. Mostly used for
motorcycle camping. I would say 90% of my friends use them or a variation on this theme. I try to accommodate the "camprest" model, about 2" thick
and very cushy. Doubles as an xtra bed for guests at home. Incidentally, I found a cot uncomfortably narrow and cold.
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by weebray  | | Therm-a-Rest extended my camping days nicely. No need to inflate, it is automatic. Efficient thermal barrier and excellent comfort. Mostly used for
motorcycle camping. I would say 90% of my friends use them or a variation on this theme. I try to accommodate the "camprest" model, about 2" thick
and very cushy. Doubles as an xtra bed for guests at home. Incidentally, I found a cot uncomfortably narrow and cold. |
I also have a thick Thermarest like you describe. Like sleeping on a bed at home. I use that for most my car camping, unless I'm going ultralight.
I use my Thermarest on top of my cot and it's the cat's meow. Way too bulky for backpacking, but if you're just car camping, that's a great choice.
John
[Edited on 3-17-2019 by John Harper]
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4x4abc
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I went the other way
lost 4o lbs and ditched the air mattress
Harald Pietschmann
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Jack Swords
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Went ultra-lite backpacking years ago...Therm-a-rest NeoAire Xlite: 12 oz, size of waterbottle packed, R value 3.2...reflective layer for heat, 20
degree insulation. In Baja used on cot, in Sierras on the ground. Changed all backpacking gear and went from 38 lbs to 24 lbs for a full week or
more. Like carrying a daypack. Sleeping on a cot with out a pad is cold as the sleeping bag insulation under you is squished and ineffective.
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wilderone
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Self-inflating, closed cell foam pads, half inflated surf mat - all good. Even better, double them up for better insulation and more cushion. My
favorite is a Thermarest Basecamp AF - just a few puffs needed, lightweight, doesn't take up much space, 2" cushion. Grandson should be comfortable
on this. Pillow is important too; when I luxury car camp (relatively speaking), I take a sofa pillow (smaller than a bed pillow), and use a
pillowcase with it (flannel is nice). Instead of taking from your sofa at home, they're readily available in thrift stores for $2. Those 6"
inflatable air mattresses are very bulky and take a long time to fill up using your accessory attachment.
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mtgoat666
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Therma-rest mondoking 3D.
Self-inflating 4”-thick mattress.
Good for car camping, or kayak/canoe trip. Too heavy for backpacking.
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pacificobob
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i have used the "go cot" really an excellent option.
https://store.campingcot.com/
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norte
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I used o rolled up feather bed mattress the last couple of times out. Very comfy and even though most vehicles have a 110 outlet now-a-days...didn't
need it.
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TMW
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I have an extra wide army style cot. It's about 36 inches wide. I don't remember who I got it from but an on line search will show where to get em. I
have seen them in ads from Big 5. I use a moving pad or two depending.
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sancho
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We're close to age weight, another Thermarest vote, borrowed
one yrs. back, was sold on it. Being a cheap $$$, I might
look for a used one, they have changed some model names over
time, I used a camp luxury (name may be off). They make
a few models, some for backpacking, some narrow, which the
weight for car camping not a problem, with the heavy ones. Wife
uses a cot, a bit bulky, but comfortable
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JZ
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Cot, plus a good self inflating pad.
Air mattresses are worthless.
[Edited on 3-18-2019 by JZ]
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Hook
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I like cots, but I still need a self-inflating mattress to go on top of it. Even though I have a high end, very tight Slumberjack cot, I dont like the
way your spine goes out of alignment when you lay on your side. You're like a slight U-shape. The mattress alleviates this. Mine is a Thermarest from
their base camping line.
True air mattresses move around too much and are too noisy.
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del mar
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my aging bones love the air mattress......
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