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Micah posted "Like stop signs in Mexico, shrimping bans are only a suggestion. When the season is closed in Mexican waters, the boats simply
move out of Mexican waters. If they even bother doing that. Off season the boats travel farther out to other areas of the Pacific where there hasn’t
been much shrimping going on while the pickings were good near shore."
im guessing there will be shrimp enough for everyone...maybe a bit more costly?
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | | I think it is wrong to send our conscripted (or volunteer) teenagers to be pawns in and to die in some other country’s civil war.
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Come on, Goat. It's the American way!
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fishbuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Yet, if it wasn't for a war to halt communism from robbing the people of freedom, there would be no MASH show.
Too bad Truman stopped MacArthur, as we were all the way to the Chinese border pushing the red bastards out of all Korea before the politicians had us
retreat back down the peninsula, halfway. Look at the nightmare and death and torture of innocent people in North Korea ever since.
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I think it is wrong to send our conscripted (or volunteer) teenagers to be pawns in and to die in some other country’s civil war.
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I agree, but here, since the Soviets and Red Chinese made North Korea possible (as a military power) it wasn't really a civil war. It was one of the
first cold war tests between the forces of good and evil. Freedom isn't free. We defeated socialism (N-zis) and the Imperial Japanese, so we couldn't
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The "Domino Theory" has proven to be true.
Fortunately all the different commies don't get along.
No surprise there!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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pauldavidmena
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck | It is a bit of an obsolete cutural reference and is losing it's relevence. It's old and the people that know what it means are dying off.
I'm young but that was a big show for me and my USAF buddies.
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You aren't that young, MASH was a movie long before it became a TV show, and the song was used in the movie, and the lyrics are in the movie. I
thought you were 59? That's only 2 years younger than me and I saw the movie in the theaters when it was first released. Sally Kellerman was quite a
big deal back then. Maybe you were a bit young in 1970.
I was lucky because my folks let me see a lot of movies that kids probably wouldn't see today. In Cold Blood, Easy Rider, Cool Hand Luke, Bullitt,
The Wild Bunch, Bonnie and Clyde, all the Eastwood movies, etc. Nothing like
American blood and guts!
John
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Since we're already way off topic...
I'm 59 and I remember the original MASH vividly. My father disliked it because it made fun of the Korean War - which he served in - and Alan Alda's
politics were too liberal for him. The "Suicide is Painless" song was written by Johnny Mandell and Mike Altman (director Robert Altman's 14 year-old
son) and performed by a group of uncredited session musicians.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Yet, if it wasn't for a war to halt communism from robbing the people of freedom, there would be no MASH show.
Too bad Truman stopped MacArthur, as we were all the way to the Chinese border pushing the red bastards out of all Korea before the politicians had us
retreat back down the peninsula, halfway. Look at the nightmare and death and torture of innocent people in North Korea ever since.
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I think it is wrong to send our conscripted (or volunteer) teenagers to be pawns in and to die in some other country’s civil war.
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I agree, but here, since the Soviets and Red Chinese made North Korea possible (as a military power) it wasn't really a civil war. It was one of the
first cold war tests between the forces of good and evil. |
Which side was good?
From what i could see it was just 2 sets of oligarchs competing for market share. flock both sides, both were wrong.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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fishbuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Yet, if it wasn't for a war to halt communism from robbing the people of freedom, there would be no MASH show.
Too bad Truman stopped MacArthur, as we were all the way to the Chinese border pushing the red bastards out of all Korea before the politicians had us
retreat back down the peninsula, halfway. Look at the nightmare and death and torture of innocent people in North Korea ever since.
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I think it is wrong to send our conscripted (or volunteer) teenagers to be pawns in and to die in some other country’s civil war.
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I agree, but here, since the Soviets and Red Chinese made North Korea possible (as a military power) it wasn't really a civil war. It was one of the
first cold war tests between the forces of good and evil. |
Which side was good?
From what i could see it was just 2 sets of oligarchs competing for market share. flock both sides, both were wrong. |
Why bother with it. Can you fix it now? Or go back in time and do it your way?
It's cowardly and dishonest for you to second guess history. And meaningless.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Alright, you children of re-written history...... here's a first-hand story of the inception of M*A*S*H movie.
It came out in the early summer of 1970. I was stationed at Fort Jackson, S.C. for Infantry training when it was first released, and the Post
advertised the movie for Friday and Saturday night viewing at the Post theater.
A few of us went to the Friday night show, and thankfully got to watch the whole movie, the building maybe a third full of GI's. The show was not
only well-received (especially the jeep driver reciting "Gawd-damned army..... gawd damned army jeep..." etc... but the word spread like wild-fire.
The next night we went back, the theater was full to capacity and OVER-full, with standing room also filled; all isles were filled with GI's sitting
on the steps, the sides full with standing soldiers; and I'd guestimate you only heard one fourth of the dialogue of the movie form the hoots,
laughter and applause from the crowd as the movie progressed. I'm eternally grateful for seeing it the first night. The second night was ...... A
HAPPENING.
The movie was a result of the later 60's anti-war movement with Nam dissidence as the catalyst. Korean vets didn't ever have that voice, as well as
they didn't have the diagnosis of PTSD.
The 60' were a renaissance of biblical proportions, and i'm proud to have been a part of them. I was recently accused by a local troll of ''not
standing up for anything''.... Shee-it, I marched in anti-war protests as a combat vet still in uniform for the Viet Nam Vet's Against the War
(V.V.A.W.) twice, had coffee with Dave Dillinger (one of the Chicago Seven), pulled an ambush on the KKK of Clarksville TN who were gonna pull an
'axe-handle party' on the hippie scum who were running a 'commie' law-help-protest house for Ft. Campbell KY... but I digress.
M*A*S*H was a MOVEMENT. The TV show went on with that momentum to show what the other side of 'patriotism' propaganda really is to the totality of
and the horrors of WAR, period. Sure went on for a lot of seasons, and I for one still watch it reverently and whenever it's on. Seen most episodes,
but yet there are new ones constantly I still haven't seen.
To those who are offended by the M*A*S*H movie/series, it's your choice, it's your history. To me, it's T*R*U*T*H. I didn't live Korea, but I did
live Army, SNAFU, and FTA, ALL THE WAY.
peace, out.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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fishbuck
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No one cared about this. We were not talking about MASH or Korea.
You brought up the lyrics in a left handed insult to goat.
You were implying the he should consider suicide. Appearently, you didn't want to here from him anymore.
Most of us were discussing Shrimp season and the closure.
I wish that could continue in an intellegent manner... but probably not...
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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JoeJustJoe
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What happened to this thread I thought it was about prawns?
It appears that Bajabuddha, thinks he is Ron Kovic, from Tom Cruise's, movie, " Born on the Fourth of July."
If you ask me "MASH" was a stupid unfunny sitcom, that was full of misogyny, homophobia, racism, with a mainly all white cast who played the parts of
white saviors.
Did they really have a black character that went by the name of "Spearchucker Jones? Could you imagine MASH on the air today, in the era of the " Me
Too Movement," and with minority groups not like being the butt of a joke?"
I know I know, lot of members here harken back to the good ole' days, but the truth is those days weren't that good, but with today's cable, satellite
TV, the internet, Netflix, and a whole range of TV and movie options, we don't have to stuck watching the big three, or big four TV stations if we
count Fox, with CBS, NBS, and ABC.
Regarding the Korean war, the US was lucky to fight to a stalemate against the North Koreans, and Chinese, which was viewed in the rest of the world
as a lost for America, because the US had the big war machine, and the Chinese was an ill equipped peasant rag-tag army that was able to fight the
US to a draw.
I think the US or hope will win the trade war against the Chinese, because I have both US and Chinese stocks, but if we have a future weapons war
against the Chinese. I think it might be a good idea to start practicing learning to speak Chinese, just in case.
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Mashing Schrimp
First movie that I ever saw after moving to Indio in '70. It was OK. Haven't seen it since.
Saw a few episodes of the TV series over the years. They were OK. Never felt like watching the reruns.
During our years in Baja we bought and were given many many kilos of Schrimp. They were GREAT. Although, there was one
time-period when we were being given so much, that we were a bit soured on them.
Hope that the fishery survives.
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Well done folks. Good to see how much you chitheads care about overfishing. Or anything other than.....
God. Knows. What. <;~l
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They're still selling shrimp here and taking orders for next week. $300 for cleaned jumbos
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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"Could you imagine MASH on the air today" It is on the air today - cable channels.
So the poop on the overall situation status-wise (also a MASH line) about the shrimp … a bold move to analyze and plan for the future. Might be
painful in the short term for some, but it's for their own good. It's science, not politics. Sheesh.
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Come on, science is fake. Politics is truth.
John
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Yes about prawns
No about Joe being a racist. There is not one racist statement in his post.
His discription of MASH is accurate. It is a sad story. Not funny. The sensitivities regarding what was offensive were different during the Korean War
and the run of the show and viewed by many as racist today.
The humor is gallows at best. Which by definition is is trying to laugh while dying.
And Joe could probably tell you what the price of tea (prawns) is in China.
And that would be relevant, interesting, and very intellegent.
So again the free flow of ideas (and ideals) prevails.
A win-win.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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fishbuck
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"It appears that Bajabuddha, thinks he is Ron Kovic, from Tom Cruise's, movie, " Born on the Fourth of July."
I'm thinking he is more "Catch 22". With his "SNAFU Semantics" and "FTA Phlosophy".
I wish I was watching it now.
You know, with a fresh batch of popcorn... SHRIMP!
[Edited on 3-23-2019 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Shrimp are good
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| Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck | "It appears that Bajabuddha, thinks he is Ron Kovic, from Tom Cruise's, movie, " Born on the Fourth of July."
I'm thinking he is more "Catch 22". With his "SNAFU Semantics" and "FTA Phlosophy".
I wish I was watching it now.
You know, with a fresh batch of popcorn... SHRIMP!
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Did you know Catch 22 was filmed near Guaymas on the Sea of Cortez coast? In fact until a few years ago, you could see the runway they made for the
film on Google Earth. It has finally been built over.
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That’s not what she said
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JoeJustJoe
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Thanks for the support a few posts back, but I think you hurt Bajabuddha's feelings, when you and the rest of us didn't show him enough deference over
his Vietnam/MASH autobiography report.
| Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck | "It appears that Bajabuddha, thinks he is Ron Kovic, from Tom Cruise's, movie, " Born on the Fourth of July."
I'm thinking he is more "Catch 22". With his "SNAFU Semantics" and "FTA Phlosophy".
I wish I was watching it now.
You know, with a fresh batch of popcorn... SHRIMP!
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