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OCEANUS
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Two caravans head north towards the border....
We had two caravans of vehicles heading north last Sunday at the same time. One group of 20 vehicles diverges at Mex 3 to cross Tecate in 1.5 hours.
The other group of four vehicles continues towards San Ysidro, and does not get across the border until 6.5 hours later.
Reportedly, border vendors were having to deliver gas to vehicles who ran out while waiting in line.
There has always been some discrepancy in border wait times at specific crossings, but this difference of five hours feels arbitrary.
It appears as if these recent border "theatrics" are now unnecessarily and negatively impacting the lives of law abiding Americans under the guise of
border security.
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weebray
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You think?
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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David K
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Or, just maybe, Tecate is the better choice?  
[Edited on 4-11-2019 by David K]
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BajaMama
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I'm no sure how 24 cars would back up traffic at two different crossings? Sorry but you lost me here. Are you saying people from Central America?
An entire caravan in 20 cars?
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bajabuddha
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There was an article earlier this morning (since taken down) about greatly increased wait times at ports of entry due to tRump moving a great many
agents from the ports to work his 'emergency' immigration burdens. So if you're headed Stateside you better have your shirt together.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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AKgringo
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I could be wrong, but I took it to mean two groups of motorists traveling together got caught up in border congestion caused by increased security.
It seems that 'Caravan' has taken on a new interperatation since immigrants started flooding the border.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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willardguy
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and the caravan is painted red and white
that means everyone is staying over night......
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David K
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I read the caravan of driving visitors/tourists (?) split up past Ensenada. 4 cars went to San Ysidro crossing and waited 6.5 hours. 20 cars went to
Tecate and crossed in just 1.5 hours.
This is not too bizarre as Tecate is nearly always much shorter than Tijuana's two borders. I bet the 4 cars that split off from the majority we're
sorry they did?
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nandopedal
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The "Animas mermaids" caravan not the "Central America C."
And yes Mr. Oceanus, ever since the shenanigans started at that fatidic border the wait times have increased.
Baja boy had an all nighter a few weeks ago!
\"There are many dangers in Baja. The most serious of which is not going.\" Christophe Noel (EXPO)
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sancho
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Speaking of vehicle travel, gas prices, I believe it is the first in a
while that Ca. gas prices are ahead of Baja. I could be off a bit, but I
believe reg. gas in Baja is $3.66 a gal? Is that about right? Saw reg. this morn
here at $3.89
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Bajazly
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I drove up the central valley after a 20 minute Algodones crossing on Tuesday and regular unleaded all the way up was mid 4’s per gallon. The travel
center truck stop places were a little less but the last couple weeks gas has gone stupid. Is it just Semana Santa or did the Wall Street oil dorks
decide it was time to crash the economy again? Are we headed for 5 plus dollar a gallon gas again for no good reason?
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
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"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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Bajaboy
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | It's our California liberal politics that adds more gas sales tax and mandates our state use a gasoline blend not used anywhere else. That means when
a California refinery is offline (like now) we can't import gasoline from a neighbor state, as other states can. We are a dollar or more a gallon more
than other states and we have oil wells here and others don't. Insanity. |
If gasoline was $6/gallon, we'd see a lot more electric vehicles on the road...just saying...
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sancho
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I was fortunate to grow up in Ca. when living was easier, fortunately approaching the time to hang it up. Ca. recently passed
the UK as the 5th largest economy in the world, so something
is going right, although glad I'm not just graduating High School
and want to continuing living here, that would be a challenge
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pacificobob
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but,but,but RAPISTS!
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motoged
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Heading north to the border at Tecate several weeks ago I unfortunately got caught behind a caravan from San Quintin to Maneandero....While watching
others taking crazy risks trying to pass this clot on the road, I understood what frustrations led to taking such risks.
Caravaning RV's in large numbers is likely somehow comforting to folks who have a need for such "protection", but is rather inconsiderate when
thinking of others on the road.
They are a bigger risk than bicyclers ...who get all sorts of flak here
Why don't caravaners gather in smaller groups?
Just wondering?
Don't believe everything you think....
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paranewbi
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Gas at Costco yesterday...thirty cents a gallon cheaper than any other station around.
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JoeJustJoe
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I don't get the whole caravan thing if you're going to get together with other white strangers from the US or Canada to travel to Mexico, because you
have a underlying fear of Mexico.
What do they do circle the wagons( RVs) when danger approaches? Perhaps they should stay home, and visit "Taco Bell" to get their Mexico fix.
Regarding the long lines at the border and the central American caravan problems.
That's the US President's fault, for exasperating the situation with his tough talk on building walls, and unilateral( illegally) trying to change
immigration law/policy without congress.
So now crossing the US border is at a 12 year high during the Trump Administration.
Great job you're doing Trump. 
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John Harper
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I crossed in the SY regular lanes on Wednesday, got in line at 10:30 AM, finally through about 12:20 PM. I seem cursed to always have close to two
hours whenever I try to figure out a faster time of day to cross. Now I've just resigned myself to a two hour wait. Don't let a known hassle spoil
the wonderful times that went before.
John
[Edited on 4-12-2019 by John Harper]
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | It's our California liberal politics that adds more gas sales tax and mandates our state use a gasoline blend not used anywhere else. That means when
a California refinery is offline (like now) we can't import gasoline from a neighbor state, as other states can. We are a dollar or more a gallon more
than other states and we have oil wells here and others don't. Insanity. |
Does anyone remember the California air quality in the 1960s? that was before those liberals made those awful regulations. with any luck president
pooter-grabber will roll back those socialistic, oppressive laws and we will once again be able to see what we are breathing! a clean, healthy
environment is part of a liberal ,commie agenda! MAGA! (make america gag again)
[Edited on 4-12-2019 by pacificobob]
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ncampion
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92,000 apprehensions at the southern border last month. This doesn't count the number that get through. Any you think this is not a problem?
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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