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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 11:25 AM
A Hidden Desert Railroad: Las Flores to the San Juan Tramline


I wrote a new article on the Las Flores Railroad line and made it into a web page for my site as a 2017 trip entry. Please enjoy: http://vivabaja.com/Las%20Flores%20Railroad.htm



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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 01:55 PM


Nice article, David. In 2015 I interviewed Fermín Smith Guerra, the delegado of Bahía de los Angeles. He told me of his grandfather, who was a hand-miner (gambusino). Great stories about the mine, its history, and town life in the 1930s. There was still quite a bit of small-scale extracting activity in the arroyos around the area after the mine closed, following the revolution.

Here's what Las Flores once looked like:






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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 02:01 PM


The jail building, which Fermín said was used to store explosive powder--to keep it safe from flames or careless individuals.










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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 03:30 PM


Thank you for the photos and thanks to Doug for fitting them in the thread.

I suspected such a strongly built building was for more important things than drunken miners returning from the saloon. However, I tend to side that it was for the ingots since the mine was up at San Juan and not at Las Flores?




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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 07:14 PM


I imagine it could have been both, at different times. Buildings were often repurposed according to the need at the time.
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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 07:57 PM


Do you think we can get it going again?:bounce:



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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 08:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Do you think we can get it going again?:bounce:


Yes! Go to the link I included in there to my past Las Flores article. It contains photos from LarryC up at the San Juan Mine, inside the tunnel there... It goes to the deepest shaft in Baja! They didn't run out of gold, they just got into a political problem!




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[*] posted on 4-17-2019 at 08:09 PM


Is this a "secret" mine?



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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 07:01 AM


David, Did you export the Inreach GPX track for that portion of your travel to share?
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Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Is this a "secret" mine?


No, the Secret Mine of Jesus Flores story is detailed in Gardner's 1962 book.




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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
David, Did you export the Inreach GPX track for that portion of your travel to share?


I simply copied the map from the Garmin web page of my tracks. https://inreach.garmin.com/ and go to the Map page. In Photobucket, I added the text and arrows. (since then, Photobucket has changed their editing features and I think those arrows are not offered anymore).




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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 02:35 PM


It is a shame you ignore the gps track. It is so easy to export it to you PC. Takes about 5 seconds after you log onto the map on your account.
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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 02:41 PM


the other railroad bed is a lot more exciting
well defined and you can drive with your truck up to the tram line




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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 07:30 PM


I always wondered where the mine was when I drove past Las Flores.

I always thought it was west of the jail, never thought it was south of it.

Thank You for taking the time to post about this.
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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 08:12 PM


Mina San Juan
28°42'36.27"N, 113°34'29.88"W




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Thanks, Harald....gonna pull that up on google earth now.
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
It is a shame you ignore the gps track. It is so easy to export it to you PC. Takes about 5 seconds after you log onto the map on your account.


I don't understand what you mean. What was ignored?




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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the other railroad bed is a lot more exciting
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Show me please.




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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 09:26 PM


but you have to use a GPS program, David.
here we go:
www.baja101.com/Baja-GPS/tramway.kml
www.baja101.com/Baja-GPS/Railroad-bed.kml




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[*] posted on 4-18-2019 at 11:38 PM


on your own road log, David.
Santa Marta Mine
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=28207




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