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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 02:45 PM
Damper condition?


Fishbuck, when I viewed the fireplace photo, it appeared to be a masonry construction with a metal fire box. If the damper in the chimney is improperly installed, or partially obstructed, it could cause smoke problems.

Do you know if the flue is metal, block, or terra cotta? It may need cleaning to draw properly.


I am not making this up, but I was thinking of your firewood needs today. I am clearing some manzanita on my property to improve the defencable space (fire season) and was thinking about smuggling a small load accross the border for you when I finally get on the road this fall.


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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 03:32 PM


Would love it. Was told that is the best wood. And it is prohibited from gathering it locally.
If they see it in your truck...




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 03:43 PM


that should go in the bbq not your fireplace!
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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 03:45 PM


you could run a wood stove insert in the fireplace and plumb it into a new stove pipe running up the fireplace flue efficient and clean

[Edited on 5-9-2019 by blackwolfmt]




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 03:56 PM
THE BEST MONEY I HAVE SPENT


After a colder than usual winter we bought a ELECTRIC BLANKET the first time I ever used one. This is the third winter and I will never be without one again.:light::light:
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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 04:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by J.P.  
After a colder than usual winter we bought a ELECTRIC BLANKET



And keeping up with technology, get a solar electric blanket. It will keep you warm all day for free! :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 04:54 PM


Wet suit and lotsa frejoles.



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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 05:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
I smell like a campfire, my bedroom smells like a campfire, and my asthma is getting a bit worse.
If I wanted a bunch of smoke in my lungs I'd use medical marijuana. Atleast that feels good.
So, what off-grid heat is available that is not burning wood or maybe a cleaner way to burn the wood.
This is filthy and requires that I clean out the fireplace daily.
Is there a cleaner way to stay warm.
Insert dirty joke here:

And then please give me some good advice on house heating in Baja.
Thank you
Mike:saint:


[Edited on 5-8-2019 by fishbuck]


next you will be asking for help tieing your shoes.
if you got to 50 years age and havent figured out how to heat a house, then god help you, you need the help.

p.s. put a sweater on, you fool!

[Edited on 5-9-2019 by mtgoat666]




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 05:35 PM


Learn how to build a proper fire. Make sure the chimney has a decent draft.

"White man build big fire, sit far away. Indian build small fire, sit close." Words to learn by.

John


[Edited on 5-9-2019 by John Harper]
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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 06:25 PM
Ventless Propane Heater


We used a Mr. Heater Ventless Propane wall-mounted heater for around 30-years in Baja.

Nobody died.

Or experienced illness.

That said, it's something that I've been a bit paranoid over and always maintained a degree of outside ventilation. Still do.

I'd second that advice on Electric Blankets provided you have the power resource.

When I first moved to the high-desert 40+ years ago, I rented an isolated and uninsulated homestead cabin with a freestanding open wood fireplace and always smelled of smoke. Even tried burning coal in it. THAT was a mistake that almost killed me. Tried an electric space heater at night for awhile until I got an astronomical SCE bill. The electric blanket answer provided warm sleeping and a reasonable Edison bill.

IF one is going to burn wood, the best answer is to spend the serious bucks and buy a GOOD airtight. Efficient and NO Smell.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 07:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by J.P.  
After a colder than usual winter we bought a ELECTRIC BLANKET



And keeping up with technology, get a solar electric blanket. It will keep you warm all day for free! :biggrin:


That's what I was thinking!




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 07:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Learn how to build a proper fire. Make sure the chimney has a decent draft.

"White man build big fire, sit far away. Indian build small fire, sit close." Words to learn by.

John


[Edited on 5-9-2019 by John Harper]


I did sleep on the warm end (foot) to get as close as I could.
Tonight I may drag it closer:yes:




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 07:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
We used a Mr. Heater Ventless Propane wall-mounted heater for around 30-years in Baja.

Nobody died.

Or experienced illness.

That said, it's something that I've been a bit paranoid over and always maintained a degree of outside ventilation. Still do.

I'd second that advice on Electric Blankets provided you have the power resource.

When I first moved to the high-desert 40+ years ago, I rented an isolated and uninsulated homestead cabin with a freestanding open wood fireplace and always smelled of smoke. Even tried burning coal in it. THAT was a mistake that almost killed me. Tried an electric space heater at night for awhile until I got an astronomical SCE bill. The electric blanket answer provided warm sleeping and a reasonable Edison bill.

IF one is going to burn wood, the best answer is to spend the serious bucks and buy a GOOD airtight. Efficient and NO Smell.


Well there goes my Mesquite Charcoal idea. They sell big bags cheap here.




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 07:47 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
I smell like a campfire, my bedroom smells like a campfire, and my asthma is getting a bit worse.
If I wanted a bunch of smoke in my lungs I'd use medical marijuana. Atleast that feels good.
So, what off-grid heat is available that is not burning wood or maybe a cleaner way to burn the wood.
This is filthy and requires that I clean out the fireplace daily.
Is there a cleaner way to stay warm.
Insert dirty joke here:

And then please give me some good advice on house heating in Baja.
Thank you
Mike:saint:


[Edited on 5-8-2019 by fishbuck]


next you will be asking for help tieing your shoes.
if you got to 50 years age and havent figured out how to heat a house, then god help you, you need the help.

p.s. put a sweater on, you fool!

[Edited on 5-9-2019 by mtgoat666]


Is it goat season yet. You see I have this Big F-ing Hammer that I would like to repurpose.
I was using it to fix bent rims...;)




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 07:47 PM


solar is the way to go in Baja
radiant floor
easiest when house is being built
but adding 2" of concrete to an existing floor is easy in most homes
rolled up black irrigation tubing outside will do to collect the energy
pex tubing in the floor will deliver
an inexpensive pump will transport the warm water through the floor
the energy stored during the day is sufficient even for cold Baja nights
floor heats up to around 80F
drops to around 72F in the morning hours

the heat distribution is much more convenient than convection heat
your feet will be warm - your head will be cool (and not the other way around as with all stoves and heaters)
no heat source related drafts either

the solar energy is free
the installation is dirt cheap
the pump can be run with solar as well (free)

I have mine since 2006 and it is maintenance free
the Romans had it already - why shouldn't we?




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 10:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
solar is the way to go in Baja
radiant floor
easiest when house is being built
but adding 2" of concrete to an existing floor is easy in most homes
rolled up black irrigation tubing outside will do to collect the energy
pex tubing in the floor will deliver
an inexpensive pump will transport the warm water through the floor
the energy stored during the day is sufficient even for cold Baja nights
floor heats up to around 80F
drops to around 72F in the morning hours

the heat distribution is much more convenient than convection heat
your feet will be warm - your head will be cool (and not the other way around as with all stoves and heaters)
no heat source related drafts either

the solar energy is free
the installation is dirt cheap
the pump can be run with solar as well (free)

I have mine since 2006 and it is maintenance free
the Romans had it already - why shouldn't we?


Now we're getting somwhere!
Ultra cool... er warm I mean:cool:




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[*] posted on 5-8-2019 at 10:39 PM


Ok time for a smoke.
And putting a fresh log on about every hour and a half for the rest of the night. And I'm getting good at waking up before it goes out too!:bounce:
I think I get up early tomorrow... and shower...and cough a little:)

[Edited on 5-9-2019 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 5-9-2019 at 06:13 AM


I have a pellet stove in the house.
Will burn bag of pellets at low 12-14 hours. Heats house nicely.
Almost no smoke or smell.
Also have a pellet fire pit.
5# pellets burns long and hot for 1-2 hours with no to min smoke. I also have asthma and this does not irritate my lungs.
Issue, of course, is the pellets.
Currently I bring them across the border. Have not been asked to pay tariff on them thus far.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2019 at 06:50 AM


Check out this website:

https://www.kozyheat.com/





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[*] posted on 5-9-2019 at 10:26 AM


I have built fireplaces before
good looking and functional?
not easy
functional?
still not easy

there is a delicate balance between the fireplace opening, the chimney diameter, the chimney height and whether the chimney cools down too fast with increased height
get any of the positions wrong and you will have smoke

another thing is that most of the heat generated goes not towards the room
it goes up in smoke

[Edited on 5-9-2019 by 4x4abc]

when you look at pictures of old fireplaces in England or France (castles, grand houses etc) - only the fireplaces on the ground floor had large openings (long chimneys). At floors higher up the openings were very small (short chimney). In some old apartment buildings they used the same fireplaces on all floors and then used reduction masks for higher floors to keep the opening small. Comment only for the ones among you who like history and physics

[Edited on 5-10-2019 by 4x4abc]




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