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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 02:48 PM


The legal reasoning behind the Southbound Inspection points is from this law: DIVISION C-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM AND IMMIGRANT RESPONSIBILITY ACT OF 1996
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C. 110. AUTOMATED ENTRY-EXIT CONTROL SYSTEM. (a) SYSTEM.-Not later than 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall develop an automated entry and exit control system that will- (1) collect a record of departure for every alien departing the United States and match the records of departure with the record of the alien's arrival in the United States; and (2) enable the Attorney General to identify, through on-line searching procedures, lawfully admitted nonimmigrants who remain in the United States beyond the period authorized by the Attorney General.


But Trump's travel (Muslim) ban added Biometric screenings to that, and required DHS to speed up the implementation of the screenings that had largely been ignored since that law was passed in 1996
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The executive order requires DHS to expedite the development of the biometric entry-exit screening system recommended by the 9-11 Commission.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/404625-will-trumps-b...
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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 02:51 PM


Sec. 8. Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry-Exit Tracking System. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedite the completion and implementation of a biometric entry exit tracking system for in-scope travelers to the United States, as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.
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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 03:09 PM


I wonder what biometric data they will be collecting and from who/whom. Everybody? Face photos?

[Edited on 5-15-2019 by SFandH]




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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 05:01 PM


Face pics/scans and fingerprints, and just from non-citizens
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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 05:08 PM


How was southbound? Anybody get the third degree? Or is it quick and easy? Are they stopping everyone? Do you need to show your passport card/passport?

"Did you pack that bag yourself?"
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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 05:11 PM


How's new waterboarding facility?
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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 07:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  
How was southbound? Anybody get the third degree? Or is it quick and easy? Are they stopping everyone? Do you need to show your passport card/passport?

"Did you pack that bag yourself?"


There is a red light/green light system and a loudspeaker that barks instructions.. if you get a red light, it displays as a big red light in the shape of trump’s face blinking an angry red, and a loud speaker plays a recording of Donald trump shouting: “stop me!”




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[*] posted on 5-15-2019 at 07:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  

Bingo! We have a winner! And what makes anyone think it is only for the non-US traveler?

Biometrics will likely be for non-US travelers only, for now. No need to check IDs of the US citizens same thorough, increasing load on the border agents and equipment. Unless they have reasons to believe that your US passport is fake.
But, to sort US from non-US, they will need you to show your passport or scan RFID, and then your exit can be automatically logged in, whether you're US or non-US.

[Edited on 5-16-2019 by Alm]
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[*] posted on 5-16-2019 at 09:45 AM


Crossed yesterday at 2 pm....didn't even slow down.....pretty slick,
"much ado about nothing"...…….




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[*] posted on 5-16-2019 at 10:01 AM


So they are not actually stopping people yet? Just drive on through? Super!
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[*] posted on 5-16-2019 at 12:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Terry28  
Crossed yesterday at 2 pm....didn't even slow down.....pretty slick,
"much ado about nothing"...…….



Right, because this is why they planned for, couldn't ever get worse... once they actually start manning the booths and all.




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[*] posted on 5-16-2019 at 12:30 PM


Ahhh... I hadn't realized they had not yet started manning the booths. Then we can expect delays. Alright, hope that is a long time from now!
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[*] posted on 5-16-2019 at 12:57 PM


I apologize for whining... I already wait two hours in one direction - not looking forward to a wait in the other direction.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 06:48 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  
How was southbound? Anybody get the third degree? Or is it quick and easy? Are they stopping everyone? Do you need to show your passport card/passport?

"Did you pack that bag yourself?"


There is a red light/green light system and a loudspeaker that barks instructions.. if you get a red light, it displays as a big red light in the shape of trump’s face blinking an angry red, and a loud speaker plays a recording of Donald trump shouting: “stop me!”


Don't you mean a bright orange light?
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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 09:11 AM


Going through both ways this weekend. Will report how it is going. Sounds like no hang up at all so far. Hope it stays that way.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 11:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I wonder what biometric data they will be collecting and from who/whom. Everybody? Face photos?

[Edited on 5-15-2019 by SFandH]


Right now just foreigners, but tomorrow everybody with facial biometric technology, that doesn't always work, and in fact makes more mistakes with dark-skinned people, than white people, which is not really surprising.

Ever wonder why your taking a passport photo, or are in customs taking photos of yourself, and they tell you not to smile and remove your eye glasses?

It's because your big smile or eyeglasses could throw off the biometric information or measurements they have on you.

So it's not a perfect system as this time, and you just know Big Brother, doesn't always have your best interests in mind when they push for new technology, that's supposed to make things easier when you travel, but is also always ripe for human rights abuses.

San Francisco, got it right when they recently passed a facial recognition ban in their city.












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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 11:15 AM


Much of the rest of the world is already using this technology. The UK and Europe have been doing it for years. UK citizens walk right in at airports with only a face scan. The US is way behind on much tech. Has been for a long time.

I was working in S. Korea in the early 2000s and people were already paying with their smartphones at Family Mart (similar to 7-11) there. Then - 12-15 years later USA announces "NEW" technology to pay by phone! Ha ha ha!

We need to catch up. We are SOoooo far behind.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 11:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  
We are SOoooo far behind.


Fine with me, there is something about all automated recognition technology I don't like. It is too 1984ish

And, I refuse to get a smartphone. Jeez, I don't even have a cell phone and don't want one.




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[*] posted on 5-18-2019 at 11:32 AM


It might be 1984-ish, but it is here and has been here. Because the press has not reported it, does not mean it does not exist. They don't want us to know about it. Pretending it is not there, doesn't solve or prevent anything.

Not to worry, they are tracking you. Just be sure to smile at the cameras!
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[*] posted on 5-21-2019 at 10:35 AM


Crossed southbound about noon on Sunday - no delays - booths unmanned.
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