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Barry A.
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Block-ice frozen "clear" in my home freezer does last much longer than the compressed crushed ice now available, for the given space. I normally
expect my ice to last up to 9 days in my ancient Coleman ice-chests, with permanent 2 inch styro-foam panels around all sides, top and bottom of the
ice chest. My coolers are built in to my CAllen Camper. Milk and lunch meat etc. and not much else is in my coolers when in Baja which is not often
anymore. Just my observations.
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Great advice!
*Block ice lasts the longest.
*Pre-cool anything that is going into the icebox if possible.
*Keep iceboxes out of the direct sun or cover with wet towels.
*While staying in one place, do not drain the water to retain the ice and cold as long as possible. Only drain if you are going to be driving.
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Jeeeez....do we have to copyright our posts so DK doesn't repeat our comments to bolster his hits?????
I don't go with the "drain if off-roading".....cold water retains temp longer than cold air.... |
The sloshing of the water in the chest while driving really speeds up the melt over a drained chest off roading. Reducing the weight by draining the
water can't hurt, either.
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SFandH
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I'm beginning to think that draining or not draining does not really make a difference as far as ice longevity is concerned. In other words, take two
identical coolers, loaded identically, drain one and not the other, and the ice will melt at the same rate. That's probably why there is so much
debate.
One thing for sure, wet food sucks. I'll keep draining my cooler.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | I'm beginning to think that draining or not draining does not really make a difference as far as ice longevity is concerned. In other words, take two
identical coolers, loaded identically, drain one and not the other, and the ice will melt at the same rate. That's probably why there is so much
debate.
One thing for sure, wet food sucks. I'll keep draining my cooler. |
You don't put your food in the same cooler as your drinks. That's camping 101. Buy a small yeti or the like, and put your food in there. Add just a
little bit of ice, plus use zip lock bags.
Jameis, how can you be a veteran Baja traveler and not know the basics of cooler management?
[Edited on 6-15-2019 by JZ]
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paranewbi
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | Block-ice frozen "clear" in my home freezer does last much longer than the compressed crushed ice now available, for the given space. I normally
expect my ice to last up to 9 days in my ancient Coleman ice-chests, with permanent 2 inch styro-foam panels around all sides, top and bottom of the
ice chest. My coolers are built in to my CAllen Camper. Milk and lunch meat etc. and not much else is in my coolers when in Baja which is not often
anymore. Just my observations.
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Similarly, I freeze one-gallon containers of store-bought Crystal Geyser water and carry eight of them in a large cooler. Two others go in the food
cooler.
The first evening after our arrival at camp I take one of the two out of the food cooler and drain off the melt into our water containers. I then cut
the top third of the plastic water gallon jug off and put the remaining unmelted Ice in a towel and hit it to crush it up for margaritas during
sunset. After making the drinks I take a fresh one out of the large cooler and replace the one just used.
The bottom two-thirds of the cut-up jug can be used for any idea that crosses your mind while drinking the margaritas...like; wind protected candle
holders, sand filled weights, mixing containers for pancakes in the morning, or maybe nail it to a palapa post for you and others to store items in
while camping, etc.
The frozen store-bought water keeps ice melt out of your food cooler and ice storage cooler, provides replenishing purified drinking water in a
sanitary container, and some clean ice for that evening drink!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | I'm beginning to think that draining or not draining does not really make a difference as far as ice longevity is concerned. In other words, take two
identical coolers, loaded identically, drain one and not the other, and the ice will melt at the same rate. That's probably why there is so much
debate.
One thing for sure, wet food sucks. I'll keep draining my cooler. |
You don't put your food in the same cooler as your drinks. That's camping 101. Buy a small yeti or the like, and put your food in there. Add just a
little bit of ice, plus use zip lock bags.
Jameis, how can you be a veteran Baja traveler and not know the basics of cooler management?
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You are an idiot if you don’t know how to camp using a single cooler for food and drinks. You are just a dumb chit if you take multiple coolers
when 1 will do.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
You are an idiot if you don’t know how to camp using a single cooler for food and drinks. You are just a dumb chit if you take multiple coolers
when 1 will do. |
Congrats on all your soggy, wet food floating with your beer. What a rookie.
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Skipjack Joe
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Block ice does indeed last longer than crushed ice. It also sells for twice as much at the market.
The only time you should drain the water is if it's above freezing. Another words, if you notice that all the ice has melted and you're thinking to
add more ice to the water the water is likely above freezing temperature and will melt your new ice immediately, thus giving you less time of ice
usage. So that's when the cooler should be drained.
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | I'm beginning to think that draining or not draining does not really make a difference as far as ice longevity is concerned. In other words, take two
identical coolers, loaded identically, drain one and not the other, and the ice will melt at the same rate. That's probably why there is so much
debate.
One thing for sure, wet food sucks. I'll keep draining my cooler. |
You don't put your food in the same cooler as your drinks. That's camping 101. Buy a small yeti or the like, and put your food in there. Add just a
little bit of ice, plus use zip lock bags.
Jameis, how can you be a veteran Baja traveler and not know the basics of cooler management?
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You are an idiot if you don’t know how to camp using a single cooler for food and drinks. You are just a dumb chit if you take multiple coolers
when 1 will do. |
MR Donkey goat your the
idiot of the year dont be calling people your name. Your camping out in
basement means nothing get out enjoy a good dirt bike ride.
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BGR
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You guys getting a wee bit off topic me thinks.
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Frozen water bottles. They last longer than loose ice, keep the cooler dry and you can drink the water when they melt. 
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TMW
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I have two Canyon coolers a 35 qt for just me and a 50 qt if someone rides with me. They both have two baskets for food. I don't drink a lot of beer
but I do take a few hurricanes along with orange juice, bloodymary mix, tonic water and reg drinking water. I normally just take stuff for breakfast
like boiled eggs and a meat. Ham, sausage or hamburger/sausage mix. Sometimes the small mix fruit bowls. I carry a bag full of can stuff like soup,
chili, beef stew and tuna fish with crackers and granola bars. Most of my trips we've had a chef (Phil) that brings and makes dinner. Sometimes Robert
who does breakfast and dinner. He tells us what he needs and we get it for him. If we're near a restaurant we'll eat there.
A block of ice in my coolers will last 5-7 days. I pack em full of crushed or cubed ice and if I add more later I'll drain the water.
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