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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 07:38 AM


Nothing is changed, I live in America and I am an American. It could be either the United States of America or the Republic of America. Either way, it is "of America". Sort of like people from the country of the United Kingdom... they call themselves British and not United Kingdomers. The land (island) is Great Britain.

Now, they can even get more localized and say they are English, Welsh, or Scottish. Here, in some states, we can call ourselves Californians, or Zonies (Arizona), or ??




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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 11:04 AM


why can't we just discuss ideas?
why do some of you have to get personal?




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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 11:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
why can't we just discuss ideas?
why do some of you have to get personal?


I came across this article the other day.....about "ideas" and ideals....and it has some bearing on this conversation re: nationalism, political and personal boundaries,and values.

It was written in 1944 by the vice president of the USA, Henry A. Wallace.....

It is worth 5-10 minutes of your time:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-dangers-of-american-fascism/




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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 12:11 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
why can't we just discuss ideas?
why do some of you have to get personal?


I came across this article the other day.....about "ideas" and ideals....and it has some bearing on this conversation re: nationalism, political and personal boundaries,and values.

It was written in 1944 by the vice president of the USA, Henry A. Wallace.....

It is worth 5-10 minutes of your time:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-dangers-of-american-fascism/

Very timely.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 12:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
why can't we just discuss ideas?
why do some of you have to get personal?


I think psychological insecurity is the underlying motivation of people who insult or in someway belittle others.




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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 03:53 PM


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Wisdom from Elinor Roosvelt

Which probably explains why some (great minds?) are constantly trying to reinvent who we (the USA) are and what we stand for, and impose that on other's (not you, "abc")-----they love new ideas despite the fact that many old ideas really work pretty well, often better than any other ideas from around the world..


Me?? I am a Norte American, and people in other Countries I encounter seem to love that, pretty much. (-:




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People are like sheep. Where one goes another will follow. If you want the sheep to go in a particular direction, just bark some assertive sounding nonsense up their asses and watch the results



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[*] posted on 6-25-2019 at 04:17 PM


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No matter how hard you try, you can't make a stupid person aware of their own stupidity. If you try, the only thing you will succeed in doing is inciting their rage.


classic Dunning/Kruger effect




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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 05:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Now, they can even get more localized and say they are English, Welsh, or Scottish. Here, in some states, we can call ourselves Californians, or Zonies (Arizona), or ??


No one in Arizona says that.




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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 07:02 PM


Zoner?



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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 07:44 PM


When you have hatred for something, the result is it enhances your self esteem.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 07:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Zoner?



Sounds like a derogatory term made up by Southern Californians.

In Arizona, we consider ourselves Arizonans.

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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 08:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
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Zoner?



Sounds like a derogatory term made up by Southern Californians.

In Arizona, we consider ourselves Arizonans.

Tribal members often times refer to their respective Nations.


The only place I have heard "Zonies" is in the San Diego beach areas where in late summer about half the license plates seem to be from Arizona.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 08:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
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Zoner?



Sounds like a derogatory term made up by Southern Californians.

In Arizona, we consider ourselves Arizonans.

Tribal members often times refer to their respective Nations.


The only place I have heard "Zonies" is in the San Diego beach areas where in late summer about half the license plates seem to be from Arizona.



The sad part is most self-important "Californian locals" were not even

born there. It's that attitude and those folks that have driven many of us

away to cooler pastures

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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 08:37 PM


I don't care what people like to be known as but it is nice to know what the names are. I was born a Californian.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2019 at 09:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Quote: Originally posted by bajafam  
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Zoner?



Sounds like a derogatory term made up by Southern Californians.

In Arizona, we consider ourselves Arizonans.

Tribal members often times refer to their respective Nations.


The only place I have heard "Zonies" is in the San Diego beach areas where in late summer about half the license plates seem to be from Arizona.


I wish the Zonies would stay home and stop crowding our local (San Diego) beaches...
Build THE WALL along the the Colorado river!




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