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what i would like to see
less than a handful of groups have followed (part) of the Camino Real
Edie Littlefield Sundby and Genevieve Mattar with Kevin Branscum have done it without helicopter support and TV money.
https://www.facebook.com/TheMissionWalker/
https://caminorealbaja.com/
if you have ever been on the Camino Real you understand what an incredible undertaking that was.
here is what I would like to see - someone retracing the route Padre Fernando Consag followed to travel along the coast from Santa Ana (north of Tres
Virgines) to the Colorado River.
Here is his diary:
https://archive.org/stream/lifeworksofrever00kons#page/46/mo...
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Great idea. I did find on Google Earth the hot spring on the coast near Pancho's that Consag described in 1747. This was after I asked Pancho if he
knew about it... he did. Told me it was about 2 kms. south of his place.
Your link didn't work for me tonight and one that I had for his book was also offline.
If you read Spanish, a fellow in Ensenada I chat with on Facebook wrote a book on Consag, and it is online: http://www.archivohistoricobcs.com.mx/files/libros/pdf/Texto...
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I have the hotspring location at 2 miles from Pancho's - which one is correct?
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Show me yours! LOL
As I said 2 kms. is what Pancho told me.
It is closer to 2 miles, yes.
Now, this wall is pretty interesting, 4.5 miles south from Pancho's:
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The wall
The break in the wall just before it goes down the cliff.
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Great pics! That wall is still pretty tall. Maybe it is a lot newer than the ones at Las Animas, which also don't seem to have any purpose or they
just were never made that high?
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Pretty impressive how uniform the wall is in height and width.
The gate for whatever reason looks like it was built into the wall and not torn out later.
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I know the wall well
the hot spring location I have
Attachment: San Rafael hotspring.kmz (771B)
This file has been downloaded 243 times
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Looks like the only access would be by water. Have you ever been to the spring itself Harald? Does it run all year?
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haven't been to the spring yet
the Vallecito south of it is also on my list
lots of wildlife tracks (indicating water) are present
just south of the Vallecito is the wall
I am surprised though not to see any corrals in that area
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Vallecito
sat images show 2 walls
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What is a Vallecito? And you say two walls? Where is the second one?
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Valle = valley
Vallecito - little valley
here is the 2nd wall
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Don't believe that is another wall. We walked right past it on the trail you can see and where as I don't remember exactly what it was, had it been a
wall, we would have checked it out too. You land on the beach pretty much right below the lower arrow and have to ascend maybe a hundred or so feet to
get to the trail so maybe we walked past it not noticing it. Time to go back and look again.
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That could be just a shadow in a narrow gully?
No corrals as there is no rancho nearby?
Yes, that is where I also spotted the hot spring. It would be a short walk from the road and shorter if you can drive overland towards the spring from
the road.
Baja keeps giving us explorers more fun places to check out!
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A few more I took in 2016, no second wall to be seen.
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definitely an old wall
possibly predating the big straight one
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Yes, that is where I also spotted the hot spring. It would be a short walk from the road and shorter if you can drive overland towards the spring from
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I don't think so, David. This location would be a 3.5 mile hike from the road
the hot springs are less than a mile from the road
I have driven about half of it
28°33'26.06"N, 113° 6'56.22"W
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Yes, that is where I also spotted the hot spring. It would be a short walk from the road and shorter if you can drive overland towards the spring from
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I don't think so, David. This location would be a 3.5 mile hike from the road
the hot springs are less than a mile from the road
I have driven about half of it
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You don't think so, about what?
You are saying two distances:
Is it 3.5 miles from the road or less than a mile from the road?
I guessed it closer to 1 mile than 3.5 miles.
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GREAT photos!!!
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