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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 06:36 PM


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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 07:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

The case of a man-made or natural rise in sea level has no merit, only predictions.


I dont think you state such out of stupidity, i think you are just rigid and inflexible, and have a closed mind. Or Perhaps you are fooled or brainwashed by the partisan media you listen to.




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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 07:39 PM


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says the goat who refuses to admit what his eyes show him...
The king (sea levels rising) has no clothes!


Even you David K said you at least agree with nature caused global warming. So where do you think all that arctic melting ice goes?








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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 08:04 PM
Melting Arctic Ice will raise the Sea-Level ...............


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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 08:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
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according to who?
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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 08:16 PM


Floating ice that melts has no effect on sea-level. There's no land mass at the north pole.

It's the land-based ice that melts or breaks off into the sea that's the problem, like the Greenland glacier.

However, a continual decrease in arctic ice is indicative of a warming climate and subsequent land-based ice melt.

Here's something new, published today:
https://phys.org/news/2019-07-ice-edges-greenland-sheet.html


[Edited on 7-11-2019 by SFandH]




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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 09:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
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according to who?

Anyone with a basic understanding of physics. Like they taught us in junior high school science class...

Though I realize at this point many of us can't remember back that far. :rolleyes:


good job, you figured out how to quote!:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-10-2019 at 10:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Floating ice that melts has no effect on sea-level. There's no land mass at the north pole.

It's the land-based ice that melts or breaks off into the sea that's the problem, like the Greenland glacier.

However, a continual decrease in arctic ice is indicative of a warming climate and subsequent land-based ice melt.

Here's something new, published today:
https://phys.org/news/2019-07-ice-edges-greenland-sheet.html


[Edited on 7-11-2019 by SFandH]


who said "north pole"? maybe some need a better understanding of the Arctic"?

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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 05:11 AM


Started surfing in 1963 in OB San Diego. Spent the 70's surfing north county mostly alone. When I finished making a new board mom would let me ditch school and surf all day without seeing another soul out in the water.
Then the crowds grew over many years. More kooks out in the water. Then came the bathtub effect... more bodies in the tub and the water rises.
Global Kookism is the problem.
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 05:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  
Started surfing in 1963 in OB San Diego. Spent the 70's surfing north county mostly alone. When I finished making a new board mom would let me ditch school and surf all day without seeing another soul out in the water.
Then the crowds grew over many years. More kooks out in the water. Then came the bathtub effect... more bodies in the tub and the water rises.
Global Kookism is the problem.



Global Kookism:lol:
Your story about no. county in the 70s is pure b.s.:light: I graduated from San Dieguito high in mid 70s. I was surfing NC since I was 11.
Nice fantasy though.

[Edited on 7-11-2019 by chippy]
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 08:14 AM
'60s Surfing


While I can't say what (generally) SD North County was like during that time period, living in the South Bay (Manhattan, Hermosa and Redondo Beach) and often going as far south as Oceanside, there were many solitary weekdays and many more where there were only a few others in the water and there were few weekends that saw the sort of crowds seen today.

In nostalgia, one tends to focus on the GOOD times so it's not surprising that those solitary and uncrowded days would be remembered.

And, there were plenty of those in the '60s into the '70s.
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 09:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  
Started surfing in 1963 in OB San Diego. Spent the 70's surfing north county mostly alone. When I finished making a new board mom would let me ditch school and surf all day without seeing another soul out in the water.
Then the crowds grew over many years. More kooks out in the water. Then came the bathtub effect... more bodies in the tub and the water rises.
Global Kookism is the problem.


Finally a logical explanation that is factually correct !! ;);)
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 10:31 AM


for all the Davids out there who don't grasp the concept of climate change - and whether we are involved in causing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU&list=PL16649...

and as a bonus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZb2_vcNTg&list=PL16649...




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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 11:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
for all the Davids out there who don't grasp the concept of climate change - and whether we are involved in causing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU&list=PL16649...

and as a bonus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZb2_vcNTg&list=PL16649...


Thanks, interesting videos. That's a good youtube channel, over 6 million subscribers.





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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 12:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  
Started surfing in 1963 in OB San Diego. Spent the 70's surfing north county mostly alone. When I finished making a new board mom would let me ditch school and surf all day without seeing another soul out in the water.
Then the crowds grew over many years. More kooks out in the water. Then came the bathtub effect... more bodies in the tub and the water rises.
Global Kookism is the problem.



Global Kookism:lol:
Your story about no. county in the 70s is pure b.s.:light: I graduated from San Dieguito high in mid 70s. I was surfing NC since I was 11.
Nice fantasy though.

[Edited on 7-11-2019 by chippy]


Not so Chipman...you must have been surfing Swami's on a weekend. Even Pipes had a few guys out only most of the time and they were from San Diego State.
I mainly surfed 6th street reef Del Mar and we kept most anyone away. Remember all the vibes when you went somewhere you weren't a local at? Or maybe you hung out with the bowl hair cut blonde crews from La Jolla...
I was a soul shop (garage) board maker and got to know some of the guys I punched out in the water for paddling up to my break...still good friends. :)
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 03:34 PM


Is it hot out here or is Al Gore just blowing hot air
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 05:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

The second video of a tree growing from CO2... who is saying that isn't true? Not me.


that is the point with science - there is no choice between true or not. It simply is.
But since we still have some freedom, you can become a member in the flat earth club.




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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 05:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
for all the Davids out there who don't grasp the concept of climate change - and whether we are involved in causing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU&list=PL16649...

and as a bonus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZb2_vcNTg&list=PL16649...


All the Davids??? Seriously Harald, picking on me? Is my proving the sea has not risen the past 80 years with photos that effective?

I agree that the climate is changing. It always has and it always will. The sea level is also changing as it has in the past.

It is just changing at such a tiny rate, especially when the alarmists are saying we are polluting so much more.
Just when will the sea actually rise a full foot or more and flood the salt flats, put the palm tree in water, flood the street that beach homes are on?

The second video of a tree growing from CO2... who is saying that isn't true? Not me.



Reminds me of the 50's song...."Why is everybody always picking on me"

David is coming around...used to be no climate change. Now there is a little and the sea is rising a little. Houses are falling in the ocean... a little.

The article pointed out the streets flooded that have beach homes on them... Did you read the article David? or immediately go to tRumps talking points?
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 07:47 PM
Palm Tree Science


Having missed much (most ?) of the ongoing Palm Tree Palaver ................ WHAT is it supposed to prove ?

IF the daily conditions on the two dates and times were (impossibly) exactly duplicated (including tidal state), given the incremental (in millimeters) "claimed" rise per decade, the apparent visual difference would likely be ???????

Have I missed something significant in the Palm tide saga ?
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[*] posted on 7-11-2019 at 08:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Nothing has changed in what I know to be true.


that will become a classic




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