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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 12:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I wonder why they are letting the employers off the hook.

"While hundreds of suspected undocumented immigrants were arrested Wednesday in a series of workplace raids that split up families and left communities terrified, their employers went home as if it were any other business day."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/ice-raids-...



The trump admin could stop immigration problems by going after employers that break the law or undocumented employees. They choose to go after employees, because employees are poor and brown, and employers are wealthy and white.

All men are created equal, then treated unequally by trumpsters on the basis of race and class.


[Edited on 8-9-2019 by mtgoat666]




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 01:13 PM


Like the communists and fascists, you think that if you repeat a lie enough times it will become the truth?



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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 01:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Like the communists and fascists, you think that if you repeat a lie enough times it will become the truth?


Once again David, projecting your heros' faults, techniques, and ideologies onto others who opose thim, so that you can demonize them!
How Trumpian of you - Komrade. whos in bed with the russians again? and what is your definitionof fascists David,? because I'm not sure if it's supreme Irony, or ignorance that would lead you to mislabel individuals and their ideologies.

You would think with your american ingenutity and technologies you could figure out how to outcompete the stupid law breaking brown people who are invading your business territory!
But obviously, you want trump to eliminate cometition, so you can jack up the price you charge on good old american patriots! .


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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 01:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I wonder why they are letting the employers off the hook.

"While hundreds of suspected undocumented immigrants were arrested Wednesday in a series of workplace raids that split up families and left communities terrified, their employers went home as if it were any other business day."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/ice-raids-...



The trump admin could stop immigration problems by going after employers that break the law or undocumented employees. They choose to go after employees, because employees are poor and brown, and employers are wealthy and white.

All men are created equal, then treated unequally by trumpsters on the basis of race and class.


[Edited on 8-9-2019 by mtgoat666]


It's clearly a double standard. Selective law enforcement. I imagine the multi-billion dollar food processing industry has some well-paid lobbyists with pockets full of bribes wandering around DC.

I'd love to see the company executives loaded on the same bus as the migrants and hauled away to a detention facility.




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 01:36 PM


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Day laborers you may see around Home Depot in the morning are independent contractors and responsible to report their income. Do you think they do?


Do you report ALL of your income David? I mean you don't do cash jobs and convieniently forget to list it, right?

I have a real problem with all of the lawn service companies. I wonder how many of them brown or white properly declare income and file honest taxes!
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 03:29 PM


and with joe gone we thought it would be smooth sailing! :lol:
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 03:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Yes, I do. I am not a lawn service business other than irrigation systems to use less water and improve growth. I did not start a political topic. Look above my reply and find fault with the person who post lies about the president and racism. It is really so tirering that liberal racism and division is not called out by more. Read Dr. King, please.

RIGHT!
1. so no definition of Fascism eh? was that too difficult of a task for you David? (or did you look it up and saw you were in trouble there?)
2. "Posting lies about the president and racism"? right, pot calling kettle black eh!
3. Which "Dr Kings" reading would you like me to do David ?
(are you sure you want to rely on MLK to defend your words here David? -!)

And BTW - you would be very suprized just how Liberal I am not! if you look at my voting record, candidates I agreed with, economic and social platforms I supported - and you would be very suprized. You would think you were talking to a kindred spirit till you pulled out your Brown people are bad Bulls%#t
or started spouting totally made up BS with no documentation!

accountabilty David - its all about accountability. You have every right to post whatever you want, but that does not mean you are not held accountable for those words!
By extension, everyone who disagrees with you have exactly the same rights to post and responsibilities of accountability! deal with it David!
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 04:36 PM


Incorrigible:
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incorrigible behavior; an incorrigible liar.

2) impervious to constraints or punishment; willful; unruly; uncontrollable:
an incorrigible child; incorrigible hair.

3) firmly fixed; not easily changed:
an incorrigible habit.

4) not easily swayed or influenced:
an incorrigible optimist.

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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 04:47 PM


More Baja here please!
Stop crying over the election... Almost three years later you still can't accept it.
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 04:48 PM
Did I miss something??


How do you compare the deportees with employers?

As I understand it, the only ones subject to this current deportation are those that have an outstanding court order to be deported.

While the employer may be also on the south side of the law, he/she is not subject (at the moment) to a deportation order.

Mixing apples and oranges does not yield fruit salad folks.

Note the distinction, it is pretty clear.
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 04:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
More Baja here please!
Stop crying over the election... Almost three years later you still can't accept it.
More Baja here please!



...... then STFU on your idiotic politics Davey boy! Please!




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 05:08 PM


When goat and the other leftist posters do the same. How about equal consideration. If they stop posting politics then I would have nothing to do to provide balance. You will have a really hard time to find a post where I am the first to mention politics.



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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 05:40 PM


So in other words, you get the last? Is that it David? You are truly a tool, young man. Balance eh? Yeah that's it. Balance. You tell people to stick to Baja, as long as you get the last word. As long as people accept your dogma and ideologies as truth.

I for one am sick of this politicking pot-licking bullchit. Ever seen me post ANY POST as politics? No. You ask "more Baja" yet you spew constant non-Baja BS, buddy boy. Eat your own words.

Enough.




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 06:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
How do you compare the deportees with employers?



My point is the employers don't suffer the consequences of breaking the law as do the undocumented workers. There's a double standard at work. Clearly, one way to stop migrants from crossing the border to find work is to make it so no one would hire them because of the consequences when caught.

Three busloads of workers from a multi-billion dollar food processor were hauled away. The only problem for the managers that hired them is filling the job vacancies. I bet next week, after the cops leave, more undocumented workers will be hired.




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 07:07 PM


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No dude, I would rather there be no word...

It is not justified that the liberals here get to spew their hate, and you "fair-minded folks" stay silent. If a "conservative" or patriot expresses a rebuttal then all hell breaks loose and you hope the drama you create by commenting (only on my reply) will drive me and other conservatives away?

Sorry, if you don't want politics or this crap anymore then go to the goat or others who chose to start it with their hate for the president or for America. Take it somewhere else.

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Patriot?

Trump is a hateful, racist, white nationalist. No disputing that. Case closed. It is unfortunate that his base is equally racist, or delusional, to pretend his message is not racist.
republicans that turn a blind eye to trump and his racism and hate speech are not patriots, patriots would not support racist hate that is tearing country apart. Trump is an evil man.
Dk, your defense of trump is evil.
Dk, are you sure you want to be on the wrong side of history supporting the fascist hate of trump crime family?




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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 07:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
More Baja here please!
Stop crying over the election... Almost three years later you still can't accept it.
More Baja here please!


deflect and deny eh David! This thread started out as a report on US Citizens living in Baja illegally. You and a couple of your psycophants (yeah thats a clever intentional mispelling) immediately desided to flip that - desiding that
the best deflection to the issue of illegal americans in Mexico was to say well yeah but the other side is worse. and you followed that up with a boatload of patently false declarations, supporting your ideology, Then when called on that nonsence, you immediately retrerated into the - "oh poor me" victim.

And now its elections? David, every one of my posts has been a specific responce to you posting biased bigotted diatribes. I'm holding you asccountable David - you post it, you own it.

Minus 3 million David, and 2 years later - minus 8 million - keep up the good work!


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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 07:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Incorrigible:
adjective-
1) not corrigible; bad beyond correction or reform:
incorrigible behavior; an incorrigible liar.

2) impervious to constraints or punishment; willful; unruly; uncontrollable:
an incorrigible child; incorrigible hair.

3) firmly fixed; not easily changed:
an incorrigible habit.

4) not easily swayed or influenced:
an incorrigible optimist.

noun:
5) a person who is incorrigible.


Right, Glad you have a dictionary: Noew could you please help David out - apparently he is unabble to look up the definition of Fascist - could you do that for dear old David and post it up here - he needs the help in attacking liberals, and thats hard when he is using words he doesn't know the historical context or meaning of!
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 07:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
When goat and the other leftist posters do the same. How about equal consideration. If they stop posting politics then I would have nothing to do to provide balance. You will have a really hard time to find a post where I am the first to mention politics.


Try this one for starters David - at least thats what forced me to respond - your shameless trying to turn this discussion of americans living illegally in Mexico into an attack on those criminal illegal brown people. when I see bigotry - damned right you will get a reaction out of me David.
You posted it - you own it!
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[*] posted on 8-9-2019 at 11:09 PM


"Skin color has zero to do with anything, but some love to divide the nation using racism. All that any nation asks of its visitors or immigrants is to follow the law of the land and use established border crossings. Simple."

Have you not been following the news? People seeking asylum, trying to legally enter at Tijuana and other "established border crossings," are being turned away and told they have to wait in Mexico- a complete change of process from previous years when they had the legal right to enter the country while waiting for an asylum hearing.

One man waited in Tijuana for months, went thru a hearing under the new regulations, and was awarded asylum this week- but the government appealed the results and tried to send him back to Mexico again.

IOW: most of these immigrants are trying their best to "follow the law"- and the US agencies keep changing it.

Imagine if we did this in other cases, say, driving: you start on a trip and are told the speed limit is 65 MPH, but halfway to your destination you are arrested for speeding because- unbeknownst to you- they law was changed, and the new speed limit is now 55 MPH.

But since you were driving at the time of the change- you had no way of knowing of the new speed limit.

Is it fair? Is it just? Or is it simply a way to make it impossible for people who want to "follow the law" to actually know what the law is from day to day?

Finally- Re:skin color- how many people crossing the northern border, or coming in from Europe and overstaying their visas, are being subjected to the treatment we see at the southern border?

If you truly believe this is not about race- you're simply not paying attention.




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[*] posted on 8-10-2019 at 01:19 PM


David this is a worthless thread. Let the Baja blow hards. That don't have a life knock them self's out.:bounce:
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