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SunDevil
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It looks like your idea about visiting Cabo could use some tweaks here and there, but your biggest issue seems to be persuading your wife that this
trip is something she and the kids can do safely.
You might find someone you both know and trust that has been to Cabo and have a conversation.
In the future you might want to check out the book "Pre-suasion" by Robert Cialdini before you try to get your wife to agree to something she has
never done before.
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wilderone
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"The only concern my wife has is about crime, including from police. Not necessarily being targeted, maybe just being in the wrong place at the wrong
time, like accidentally witnessing a drug deal or something like that. This is the link she keeps showing me about murders"
Possible, but unprobable to occur.
I am a solo old lady and I have traveled in Baja Calif, and other Mexico cities by myself many, many times and have never had a problem.
The fact that you are traveling with a wife and children is a plus. Targets for crime against gringos are usually young males, people who have flashy
stuff in their truck bed that beg to be stolen. The only hazard you should be concerned with is bad drivers on Highway 1. Sometimes other drivers go
too fast and end up in your lane when making sharp turns. Passing slow semi-trucks; semi-trucks passing you; the unexpected pothole. Observe road
signs, go slow through towns. Your wife should feel comfortable after the first 5 hours.
There are other women on this forum who also travel solo in Baja.
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pauldavidmena
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A little less than two years ago I started this thread about taking 4 weeks to travel from New England to BCS (Todos Santos, to be specific) and decided that spending 50% of my "vacation"
driving wasn't a vacation at all. We were planning to travel with our dog, and flying to Cabo with a 40-pound dog is wrought with issues, hence our
decision to drive instead.
Long story short, we thought better of it and instead planned to board our pooch and spend a week per usual. As it turns out my employer eliminated
the paid 4-week sabbatical just before I reached my 10-year anniversary (which would have triggered the service award), so trips for longer than a
week or so (and hopefully with our dog Tito, who is featured in my avatar) will have to wait until I retire and schedule is no longer a concern.
[Edited on 8-18-2019 by pauldavidmena]
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Hook
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Why can't we just take people at face value, rather than assume he is some troll? Some of you read JJJ posts for too long. All Go Fund Me accounts are
not scams. All Americans are not illegally in Mexico. All ills of Mexico are not caused by Americans and Canadians.
All his questions, including the poll, just seem like what a savvy social media guy might do with his first post. Glad to see many are giving their
opinions.
Here's mine.
Don't drive to Cabo in that timeframe. You are asking for a divorce, if she is that set against it. If even one little thing goes wrong in all that
driving time, she will be a wreck. Especially when murders DO occur in Cabo, and the papers report it, or you hear the shots. They likely WILL occur.
For many of us who were going to Cabo in the 80s, we cant believe the murder rates now. But it won't involve tourists.
Don't put the monetary value of that Cabo property over the value of your relationship with your wife. Whatever its cost, the Big D and the Big CS are
bigger.
I still think you could have a good time if you flew there in that time frame, though.
Just too much time for her to think about what could go wrong in all that driving time............
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thebajarunner
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For me the greatest joy of Baja is in the driving.
I love to see the desert in all of its forms and the days at the wheel are pure joy.
Drove straight home from La Paz one time. Breakfast at the Los Arcos and at my desk in Modesto the next morning.
But, not with wife and kids aboard.....
And, if the great sense of peace behind the wheel (even on a narrow 2 lane no shoulders Baja road) is not your thing, then best listen to the others.
Driving to TJ and taking an inexpensive flight to Cabo is certainly a good option.
For me, missing the drive is missing all the fun,
but again, that is just my spin
By all means (sorry Doug, no pun intended) get to Baja and enjoy the great things it has to offer.
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Hook
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There is no doubt that, for many on this board, the joy of the drive and the joy of arriving at places that arent easily accessible by air, is THE
attraction in Baja.
Cabo is just not where Nomads tend to go in Baja.
But it just cant feasibly be done in that time frame and at that time of year. It's possible, but not feasible, IMO.
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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by echino  | | If I can't convince her in the coming months, we will need to lose the prepaid reservation for the Christmas week in Cabo. It is a two bedroom villa
at Cabo Azul, we paid about $1,400 total for the week, which is very reasonable for that kind of almost luxury accommodation. That's why we booked it
in the first place, but now with expensive tickets for the whole family we cannot afford to fly. Does anyone want that week at cost? I would even let
it go at a loss. It's transferable. But I still hope to convince her to go. It would be a great adventure, I am sure. |
OK, I'll bite. What are the dates at Cabo Azul? I have a friend that might be interested.
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daveB
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Sounds a lot like this is a drive, for you. That's nice, I like the drive as well, wherever it takes us. But I've been retired a long time, have
little or no time restrictions Fast trips may not be the best for you and your family especially on a long drive down the Baja Penninsula. I did not
get just how much time, overall, you would have. Roads are often narrow, mostly with oncoming traffic, with buses and semis being wider than car
traffic especially on corners, and, to me, no driving after dark, as strange things do happen in the dark. Almost alllways, there is no shoulder on
roadways and edges of the road in places can just be drop-offs. Your Canadian insurance is void in Mexico, you need to arrange for Mexican coverage.
You will want a TIP (Temporary Import Permit) for your car, and FMM (Tourist Permits) for you and your family. Passports of course. I would forsake
the Cabo arrangement and go part way down only, if time did permit. This would give you some time at least to enjoy Baja, not just the grey asphalt.
The best ideas are already above, doing air travel, maybe out of Tijauna. We have driven to Mainland Mexico for winters, enjoyed simply doing 250
miles a day with a motor home. Have never driven at night there, either. What you will find once you go - especially if you have time - is that the
people are wonderful, good folks that you will always remember. I have seen that in Baja and it does not change 1500 miles south of the border. The
warmer weather is the icing on the cake.
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gnukid
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Fly in, rent a jeep or something and go to Cabo Azul and enjoy circumnavigating the peninsula sur on daily trips. It's amazing and there are endless
places to explore and so much to see and do from there. It's perfect.
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Hook
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A really good solution. Sell the Costa Azul thing to Lee's friend and spend all your time from Mulege to Loreto. Get there quickly by car and then
slooooooow down.
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JZ
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Very good idea if you eliminate Cabo and take your time.
La Paz or Loreto >>>>>>>>>>> Cabo.
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David K
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ABC (Anywhere But Cabo) ?  
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Don Pisto
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chalk this up to different strokes but CSL is my favorite town in baja, over 30 years of spending thanksgiving week there i've seen the town grow
some, but yeah, this time you might want to fly!
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | chalk this up to different strokes but CSL is my favorite town in baja, over 30 years of spending thanksgiving week there i've seen the town grow
some, but yeah, this time you might want to fly! |
It is very special that Baja has something for everyone!  
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thebajarunner
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Temporary Import Permit???
| Quote: Originally posted by daveB | | Sounds a lot like this is a drive, for you. That's nice, I like the drive as well, wherever it takes us. But I've been retired a long time, have
little or no time restrictions Fast trips may not be the best for you and your family especially on a long drive down the Baja Penninsula. I did not
get just how much time, overall, you would have. Roads are often narrow, mostly with oncoming traffic, with buses and semis being wider than car
traffic especially on corners, and, to me, no driving after dark, as strange things do happen in the dark. Almost alllways, there is no shoulder on
roadways and edges of the road in places can just be drop-offs. Your Canadian insurance is void in Mexico, you need to arrange for Mexican coverage.
You will want a TIP (Temporary Import Permit) for your car, and FMM (Tourist Permits) for you and your family. Passports of course. I would forsake
the Cabo arrangement and go part way down only, if time did permit. This would give you some time at least to enjoy Baja, not just the grey asphalt.
The best ideas are already above, doing air travel, maybe out of Tijauna. We have driven to Mainland Mexico for winters, enjoyed simply doing 250
miles a day with a motor home. Have never driven at night there, either. What you will find once you go - especially if you have time - is that the
people are wonderful, good folks that you will always remember. I have seen that in Baja and it does not change 1500 miles south of the border. The
warmer weather is the icing on the cake. |
For a 10 day back and forth?
Is this a new rule that applies to Canadians?
Where did you dredge this up from??
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | | A really good solution. Sell the Costa Azul thing to Lee's friend and spend all your time from Mulege to Loreto. Get there quickly by car and then
slooooooow down. |
Bail on cabo for mulege?
Better idea is to sell cabo reservation, and fly to thailand or south africa for xmas vacation
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David K
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ABB (Anywhere But Baja) ?
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echino
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | OK, I'll bite. What are the dates at Cabo Azul? I have a friend that might be interested. |
December 21-28, 2019, if you are serious.
I will also ask around maybe some friends of friends would want to go. It will solve the problem. If not, I still hope to persuade my wife to go.
If we can get rid of the Cabo Azul reservation, then maybe we will just dip our toes into Baja by going to Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs for two
nights. We plan to be around Joshua Tree National Park in California for the New Years anyway (the plan was to drive there after Baja), and the border
is close.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by echino | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | OK, I'll bite. What are the dates at Cabo Azul? I have a friend that might be interested. |
December 21-28, 2019, if you are serious.
I will also ask around maybe some friends of friends would want to go. It will solve the problem. If not, I still hope to persuade my wife to go.
If we can get rid of the Cabo Azul reservation, then maybe we will just dip our toes into Baja by going to Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs for two
nights. We plan to be around Joshua Tree National Park in California for the New Years anyway (the plan was to drive there after Baja), and the border
is close. |
U2U please.
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F*ck it.
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daveB
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| Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner | | Quote: Originally posted by daveB | | Sounds a lot like this is a drive, for you. That's nice, I like the drive as well, wherever it takes us. But I've been retired a long time, have
little or no time restrictions Fast trips may not be the best for you and your family especially on a long drive down the Baja Penninsula. I did not
get just how much time, overall, you would have. Roads are often narrow, mostly with oncoming traffic, with buses and semis being wider than car
traffic especially on corners, and, to me, no driving after dark, as strange things do happen in the dark. Almost alllways, there is no shoulder on
roadways and edges of the road in places can just be drop-offs. Your Canadian insurance is void in Mexico, you need to arrange for Mexican coverage.
You will want a TIP (Temporary Import Permit) for your car, and FMM (Tourist Permits) for you and your family. Passports of course. I would forsake
the Cabo arrangement and go part way down only, if time did permit. This would give you some time at least to enjoy Baja, not just the grey asphalt.
The best ideas are already above, doing air travel, maybe out of Tijauna. We have driven to Mainland Mexico for winters, enjoyed simply doing 250
miles a day with a motor home. Have never driven at night there, either. What you will find once you go - especially if you have time - is that the
people are wonderful, good folks that you will always remember. I have seen that in Baja and it does not change 1500 miles south of the border. The
warmer weather is the icing on the cake. |
For a 10 day back and forth?
Is this a new rule that applies to Canadians?
Where did you dredge this up from?? |
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