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David K
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My Son Texted Me from the Tecate Police Station!
Yesterday, while returning home from a nice weekend in Ensenada with his wife and her parents (from Mexicali), my son was following others through
Tecate for the borderline and did a Baja California rolling stop at that traffic circle-like junction with the trees. He stopped as much as others but
they picked him to pull over.
The officer tried to scare them by saying it was a 4000 peso fine (US$214) as this was next to a fire station. Chris' wife (Lyz, born in Mexicali)
spoke with the cop and basically said they will go to the police station to deal with it (I told Chris before that traffic fines are low in Mexico and
never let a cop scare you with high fine talk). If you didn't break the law, then insist on going to the police station! You will be on your way, soon
enough.
At the police station, the fine ended up being $318.16 (Pesos) or US $17.00. To the great relief as for a moment, he thought it was 318 dollars (more
than they had).
The Tecate line was so long (Sunday ~6 pm), they drove on to Mexicali to cross the border!
In the end, it was a good story incident, worth the seventeen dollars! Chris said I could share it with you all!
The ticket was even discounted!
[Edited on 8-23-2019 by David K]
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ncampion
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Ah ha, the famous Tecate stop sign ticket. I'm surprised they even got all the way to the station but good for them, paying the street bribe just
continues the practice.
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del mar
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some lady on fb swears up and down it was a 19 hour wait! on a positive note the baja beach fest was a huge success
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ehall
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I saw the 19 hr wait post. Haha
Glad he stood his ground and went to the station.
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David K
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The Tecate border closes at 11 pm. A lot of people slept in their cars if they didn't go to one of the other 5 crossings into California.
Yes, I am proud of him for not panicking. He has crossed the border many times with me as he was growing up and now driving his own cars south.
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lencho
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Chris' wife (Lyz, born in Mexicali) spoke with the cop and basically said they will go to the police station | So did the cop accompany them to the station?
"I can normally tell how intelligent a man is, by how stupid he thinks I
am."
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were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand."
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chippy
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Well played! You´ve taught him well.
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defrag4
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well done!
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thebajarunner
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Great story, and good show all around
I remember many years ago getting taken to the station in Rosarito Beach.
Sunday morning, absolutely no traffic
But I was guilty of the mortal sin "DAP"
also known as driving a Porsche.
So cop takes us into the lobby, and there is a little old gray hair man mopping the floor, bucket right in front of the counter.
He puts mop in bucket, goes behind the counter, puts on a cop jacket, pulls on his official hat that says "Capitan" and writes me out a barely legible
receipt for my ten bucks. Got my middle name in front but left off the first, so I knew I would not be seeing it on my CA record.
Well worth the ten bucks to have the memory and the story to tell.
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Mulege Canuck
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Thanks for that David. It is good to have that first hand report.
Only mordida I have had to pay was for cutting back the brush and one small tree on the way into Tembabichi.
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bajabuddha
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So in other words, what happens in Mexico STAYS in Mexico.
Back in the early 00's (or late '90s probably) when I was living in four corners region, there was a Navajo drunk that mid-afternoon killed a family
of 4 in Cortez, CO while DWI. The guy had received FOURTEEN DWI TICKETS on the Navajo Res (CO. residency license) and not one citation had been sent
to the Colorado MVD from the Res police. they don't exchange information.
Never lost his license, until then. Such is life. |
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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David K
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I asked and just now and he said 'yes, was escorted' (and held onto his license during that time)... This is typical in Mexico.
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thebajarunner
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Not sure what you are insinuating
Quote: | Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha |
So in other words, what happens in Mexico STAYS in Mexico.
Back in the early 00's (or late '90s probably) when I was living in four corners region, there was a Navajo drunk that mid-afternoon killed a family
of 4 in Cortez, CO while DWI. The guy had received FOURTEEN DWI TICKETS on the Navajo Res (CO. residency license) and not one citation had been sent
to the Colorado MVD from the Res police. they don't exchange information.
Never lost his license, until then. Such is life. |
Are you suggesting that I should happily accept a bogus ticket and have it on my CA record? Not when my insurance "good driver" discount is 30%
My last US ticket was 30 years ago outside of Surprise AZ and it was almost as bogus as a Baja ticket. "Driving with CA plates" was my main
infraction.
I have been cop-stopped in Guatemala City, Antigua, D.F., Rosarito Beach (twice) La Gloria.... the list goes on and on.
Paid a couple and my very feisty Jalisco born bride has talked us out of a couple
And yes, what happens in Baja stays in Baja when it comes to my driving record |
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Lee
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Asking to pay a fine at the police station should be a bluff and not something you want to do. It can be worse at the station and I remember one
story at Tecate with an old guy who had a pocket knife in his truck. It was posted here years ago.
Also have a story about the Ciudad police station where a friend was scammed more than he would have paid on the street.
I would never go to a MX police station. If I'm wrong, I"ll negotiate the ticket on the street. If it's a scam, I'll negotiate that too.
I tell people don't go to the police station.
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JZ
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Agree with Lee's approach. Plus, I don't want waste a bunch of time.
Negotiate that down to $30-40 and be done with it. Going to the police station should be a last resort.
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Pacifico
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Agree with Lee's approach. Plus, I don't want waste a bunch of time.
Negotiate that down to $30-40 and be done with it. Going to the police station should be a last resort.
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What's your time worth while having fun in Baja? I'll happily spend $40 to save 2-3 hours time wasted on a trip to the policia station!
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Don Pisto
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I'd sure hate to have that nice policeman throw that bag that he "found" under your seat on the capitan's desk!
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bajabuddha
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Quote: | Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner | Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha |
So in other words, what happens in Mexico STAYS in Mexico.
Back in the early 00's (or late '90s probably) when I was living in four corners region, there was a Navajo drunk that mid-afternoon killed a family
of 4 in Cortez, CO while DWI. The guy had received FOURTEEN DWI TICKETS on the Navajo Res (CO. residency license) and not one citation had been sent
to the Colorado MVD from the Res police. they don't exchange information.
Never lost his license, until then. Such is life. |
Are you suggesting that I should happily accept a bogus ticket and have it on my CA record? Not when my insurance "good driver" discount is 30%
My last US ticket was 30 years ago outside of Surprise AZ and it was almost as bogus as a Baja ticket. "Driving with CA plates" was my main
infraction.
I have been cop-stopped in Guatemala City, Antigua, D.F., Rosarito Beach (twice) La Gloria.... the list goes on and on.
Paid a couple and my very feisty Jalisco born bride has talked us out of a couple
And yes, what happens in Baja stays in Baja when it comes to my driving record |
I'm not 'insinuating' anything, dude. My point was your Mexican ticket I doubt highly would be tagged to your KKKalifornia record. Sorry if your
paranoia took over.
Just posting a story about how a ticket in a foreign country (like the Navajo Nations) doesn't make it to the U.S. or State records. Take a chill
pill, Phil. |
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WestyWanderer
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I had almost the same experience at that intersection. However the cop let us get along the border fence before he pulled us over. He claimed we did
not stop all the way, which we did, even let a pedestrian cross in front of us! Long story short I was able to talk my way out of it and he let us go.
Watch out at that intersection, its a favorite for Tecate cops!
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Lee
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Quote: Originally posted by WestyWanderer | I had almost the same experience at that intersection. However the cop let us get along the border fence before he pulled us over. He claimed we did
not stop all the way, which we did, even let a pedestrian cross in front of us! Long story short I was able to talk my way out of it and he let us go.
Watch out at that intersection, its a favorite for Tecate cops! |
That's a famous or infamous intersection.
I stopped for that light to make a right turn. Thought of turning on the red, like California, but then thought no.
Looked over diagonally at the intersection and saw a motorcycle cop watching me. I waved and he waved back. Went right on the green light
thinking he'd pull me over but he didn't.
It's probably a toss of the die re station vs. street.
If I remember the story about the old guy with pocket knife (never admit to having a knife or weapon) at the Tecate police station, police threatened
to confiscate his truck. (His wife was waiting for him in the truck.) Don't recall the fine but it was mucho dinero.
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F*ck it.
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