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PaulW
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I buy gas with pesos at that station once a week for month after month. After 15 years never got short changed. And never a conflict like saying I
gave the attendant less than what I did.
Sometimes I have to suffer with too much small change which weighs me down. Correct change is good even if the tank is not full.
I have never believed I get correct liters. It is just the cost of living in Baja.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  | The first Pemex when you enter San Felipe from the north, has always been a problem. Don’t give them any cash until they take out the exact change.
So if you owe 2800 pesos don’t hand him 3000 until he has the 200 change in his hand. They say they don’t have exact change and come back after
a group meeting with the other gas jockeys and say you only gave him 2500.
I love baja but that place does pee me off. I am going to the next Pemex this year. Might be better? |
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RocketJSquirrel
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It's not too difficult to know about how much it costs to fill your tank up from certain points. For me - about 5/8ths equals 550 pesos. When the
tank hits that point, I stop (almost always at the same place) and ask for 550 pesos and have the exact change (plus tip if they do the windshield).
Never any monkey business.
If the tank did not fill up for that amount, I'd move on to a different station.
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SFandH
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I think it is always "litros chiquitos" at the two Mulege stations. Propane in town is more expensive too, as compared to Santa Rosalia.
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aburruss
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | here is what I have for Baja
help me complete it, if you have additional information
[Edited on 8-25-2019 by 4x4abc] |
Super cool Harald! Thanks for this!
Yellow = no issues
Red = Bad/Non-Existent/Don't go there
Is that how I should decipher this?
[Edited on 8-30-2019 by aburruss]
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kiterkip
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Have some of you also experienced the "500 peso note converts to a 50 peso"?
This happened to me in Los Mochis near 15D on the mainland. Just as I was handing the guy my 500 pesos, three kids climbed onto my hood to clean my
windshield. So I started yelling at them to stop, and a few seconds later I'm told that I'm 450 pesos short. Somehow I prevailed when I showed him
that my wallet was empty.
And now with the new currency the 20 peso note is the same color as the 500?
But yes.... Never ever use a credit/debit card.
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BajaTed
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Somebody got any input on the new Arco stations ????
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del mar
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at least in rosarito they're very popular, touting "american" gasoline.
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David K
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Interesting it doesn't say "Norte Americana"!
I was under the impression that it is the same gasoline as Pemex and the same price controls... only the distributors are different?
Here in San Diego, all brands of gas station trucks get their fuel from the same depot, by the former Charger stadium. Arco, Chevron, Shell trucks all
line up to get filled from the same source. I guess any special brand ingredients (like Techron) are added into the truck's tank? LOL
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caj13
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Thanks for that map work harald - really helpfull.
I have the same question as abburruss - any significance to the color?
also - has an issue with the first pemex on the left as you head into town - ( new station) as you enter Guerro Negro. I had 3 vehicles i was
responsible for, newby drivers, woman attendant pulled the old not reseetting the pump trick on one of the vehicles. Pretty funny when the raging
gringo got up in their face, and made sure all of the attendants were held accountable - and suprizingly enough, there magically appeared a refund .
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AKgringo
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The report would be useful, if it was updated frequently, but as is, it is just a snapshot in time! How often are the pumps checked anyway?
In December of 2016 I filled up at the Chametla station (sp?, the one closest to Harald). There are three sets of pumps there, and the attendant left
the one closest to the street, and directed me to the center island.
I was not on empty when I pulled in, but I paid for enough fuel to fill the tank as if I was running on fumes! I said that it couldn't be right, but
the attendant just shrugged, and I paid up.
The next week I was directed to that pump again, and refused, pulling in behind a local vehicle at a different pump. The attendant laughed, and I got
what seemed like a correct fill up.
I never saw another vehicle with Mex plates directed to the center pumps!
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Marc
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | | Cash is king in Baja but then again I am only there a few weeks at a time. It is easy to bring enough cash for that length of time.
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I figure a rough budget for the time I expect to be in Baja (or anywhere in the world) and then double it and use only 'coin of the realm'. Got caught
short of cash once in the boonies in New Guinea. But that is a long story.
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Marc
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Cash or debit card only in the US. Same deal in Baja??
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mtgoat666
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I dont buy gas w/ debit card in usa. Too many stations (or employees) allow criminals to place card skimmers on terminals.
I have experienced cc theft via gas stations, but easy to reject those fraud charges.
Avoid debit card use outside of bank atms. Too many criminals running skimmers.
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I barely make it from Mulege to Ensenada on one tank of gas. (Prius) I always use the same gas station. This is twice a year. Last time through I
got out to stretch (11 hour drive for me). The attendant said "Hey Bill, how ya doing?" He couldn't possibly remember me and I've never had the
occasion to give an attendant my name.
After giving him a confused look for a bit, he pointed to the back of my car. In the back window is a decal for myself, my wife and our two Baja dogs
with our names.
I'll bet he really enjoys he job as he does that over and over.
What I'm doing at work is so secret, even I don't know what I'm doing!
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kiterkip
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaBill74 | I barely make it from Mulege to Ensenada on one tank of gas. (Prius) I always use the same gas station. This is twice a year. Last time through I
got out to stretch (11 hour drive for me). The attendant said "Hey Bill, how ya doing?" He couldn't possibly remember me and I've never had the
occasion to give an attendant my name.
After giving him a confused look for a bit, he pointed to the back of my car. In the back window is a decal for myself, my wife and our two Baja dogs
with our names.
I'll bet he really enjoys he job as he does that over and over. |
Prius? !!
Are there "Topes" (speed bumps) anywhere in The Baja? On the mainland a Prius would sustain damage very soon. I had a Toyota Matrix with 5 3/4inch
wheel clearance and it hit almost every Tope. Prius hs an even lower wheelbase if I'm correct?
But... Very envious.
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Nikno
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Fantastic work, Harald! Thank you for putting this together.
This file is very helpful. Every Baja traveler should have this saved on their GPS or on their phone. Fuel emergency is one of the top causes of
breakdowns, especially if you are venturing into parts unknown.
Here are some additions:
1. Gas out of cans in San Juanico is actually at:
26.258802, -112.479916
It is known locally as "Chino's". Your waypoint is 2 blocks off.
2. There is an actual pump in San Juanico on the way to Second Point at:
26.251801, -112.481369
It is not a Pemex or anything. Just a small shack with an actual metered pump and a very nice attendant. I have filled jugs there and it has always
been spot on. Can't remember the name.
3. Gas in jugs is available in Ejido Luis Echeverrria. I bought gas there in February. I can't remember the exact intersection but it is roughly at:
26.820652, -113.147229
Maybe 1 or two blocks off but easy enough to ask around once you are there.
4. Gas in jugs is available in Heroes de la Independencia on the side of Highway 3 at:
31.611186, -115.889628
This saved my ass once when I burned way more fuel coming over Canon el Mano than planned and rolled into town with 1 gallon in my tank and empty
spares.
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JZ
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I'd recommend avoiding the Pemex at Jesus Maria. Either the diesel is expensive or they are cheating.
And pretty disappointing that the air doesn't work at Baja Cactus's place. Seriously, how much does it cost to have a working air pump.
[Edited on 9-2-2019 by JZ]
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4x4abc
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| Quote: Originally posted by Nikno | Fantastic work, Harald! Thank you for putting this together.
This file is very helpful. Every Baja traveler should have this saved on their GPS or on their phone. Fuel emergency is one of the top causes of
breakdowns, especially if you are venturing into parts unknown.
Here are some additions:
1. Gas out of cans in San Juanico is actually at:
26.258802, -112.479916
It is known locally as "Chino's". Your waypoint is 2 blocks off.
2. There is an actual pump in San Juanico on the way to Second Point at:
26.251801, -112.481369
It is not a Pemex or anything. Just a small shack with an actual metered pump and a very nice attendant. I have filled jugs there and it has always
been spot on. Can't remember the name.
3. Gas in jugs is available in Ejido Luis Echeverrria. I bought gas there in February. I can't remember the exact intersection but it is roughly at:
26.820652, -113.147229
Maybe 1 or two blocks off but easy enough to ask around once you are there.
4. Gas in jugs is available in Heroes de la Independencia on the side of Highway 3 at:
31.611186, -115.889628
This saved my ass once when I burned way more fuel coming over Canon el Mano than planned and rolled into town with 1 gallon in my tank and empty
spares. |
thanks for the update!
I actually got gas in that first location recorded in San Juanico
probably gone now
here is the new file
Attachment: gas.kmz (23kB)
This file has been downloaded 203 times
Harald Pietschmann
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | I'd recommend avoiding the Pemex at Jesus Maria. Either the diesel is expensive or they are cheating.
And pretty disappointing that the air doesn't work at Baja Cactus's place. Seriously, how much does it cost to have a working air pump.
[Edited on 9-2-2019 by JZ] |
You don't travel with an air pump? Get one if you don't. But yeah, Cactus should get it together. Probably fixed by now.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
You don't travel with an air pump? Get one if you don't. But yeah, Cactus should get it together. Probably fixed by now.
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I've got one. Was coming back from Loreto over the weekend. We stopped to do some recon of Hagy Mesa for a future trip. The turn off is only a few
miles down the road from El Rosario. Figured we'd just go to the Pemex and air up faster. There were 2 pumps and both were busted.
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