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JZ
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Have you ever or do you now travel with a gun to Baja?
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Bajaboy
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WTF? I'm more concerned about getting blasted here in the USA. I go to Baja for mental sanity. I can't keep up with all the mass shootings in
Merica.
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MrBillM
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Have Gun - Will Travel ?
North or South one NEVER knows what ill might occur.
Statistically, while there are myriad individual risk factors involving (among others) location and environment, the chances of being a
victim in Mexico are (overall) higher than the U.S., BUT your chances of being a victim are still low. A small fraction of one-percent.
That said, a Paranoid Pessimist (like me) might weigh the risks and say "Why the F not ?"
Traveling in Mexico over 40 years, I carried more often than not. Fortunately, without incident other than a couple of close calls during
inspections.
Of course, traveling in the U.S. (usually armed), there have only been a very few incidents. Most long ago in a younger (and wilder) time.
Semper Paratus !
Just don't get caught.
[Edited on 9-4-2019 by MrBillM]
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ehall
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Lol. Not a chance. I have seen the inside of a mexican jail.
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AKgringo
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I do not carry in Mexico. I feel that the chances that having a firearm saves the day for you, are far out shadowed by the chances that it is going
to be a big problem for you!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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MMc
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Nope.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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norte
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If I did, I sure would not admit to it here...Unless I never go to Mexico anymore like Mr. Bill.
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MrBillM
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That's TRUE !
Those who are still making the journey would be ill-advised to admit that they carry no matter how remote the possibility they would suffer as a
result. One never knows when they might irritate someone who would find the information useful for retribution.
Even though the odds were against discovery, the last gun that I still had in Baja is still there.
In pieces spread over a few square miles.
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LancairDriver
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This question is like asking Israel if they have Nukes.
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advrider
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Never leave home without one, except when I go to Mexico! In Mexico I have several can's of high power wasp spray, it would give me enough time to get
away or take the gun pointed at me.
No way I want to see the inside of a Mexican prison, the US ones I work in are bad enough... Never felt like I needed one or wish I had one while
in Baja!
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Bajazly
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Wasp spray is what I’ve heard of too and plan on getting a couple cans. Is it available in Baja or is it just a US thing? Pepper spray might be good
too and don’t think they mess with you here too much for that except for flying, can’t fly with it.
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
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"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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LancairDriver
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There was a time I was glad SOMEONE had a gun in Baja. Years ago I was on a motorcycle trip through Baja with a group of five. It was before the
highway was finished and I was about 19 then. The trip was almost all through the desert on dirt to LaPaz. We were a little behind schedule and were
running after dark to some planned destination for the night. We passed through a small town and encountered a hostile drunken gang of young people.
We ignored them and kept on moving through. They all jumped in an old beater pickup and started to chase us. We ran for a few miles with them right
behind us and finally decided it would be safer to stop running fast at night on an unknown road and see what the gang had in mind as everyone in our
group was physically in good shape. As they piled out of the pickup we immediately saw they were armed with tire irons and at least one hammer. At
this point one of our group pulled out a 357 revolver that none of us knew he had packed. He aimed just over the heads of the advancing gang and fired
off a round. I can still remember the ear splitting report and the fire coming out of the barrel of the gun. The gang did an abrupt about face and
fled the scene. With the way the Cartels are armed to the teeth today that would have been a suicidal move as we would have been badly outgunned. It
thankfully worked that time and there were no repercussions.The rest of the trip was uneventful.
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John Harper
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Two words: Bear Spray
I actually read some information in Wyoming about the use of a gun versus spray against bears. Surprisingly, the people who used bear spray were more
likely to survive than the gun owners, by almost 2 to 1!!!.
I guess because the spray comes out in a cloud about 25-35 feet out, where as a panicked human likely shoots wildly or on the run. I don't feel so
bad about leaving my .44 Magnum at home this summer and just packing bear spray.
It dawned on me that carrying bear spray against potential human threats, especially like somewhere in Baja, might be a great option. I used to pack
a hunting slingshot and .44 caliber lead balls, figured that would keep any banditos at bay. You can be quite accurate with a good slingshot.
John
[Edited on 9-5-2019 by John Harper]
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ehall
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Always take my mask, snorkel and spear gun when in my jeep.. Loaded spear gun is pretty intimidating.
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Desertbull
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Wasp Spray is a myth as a weapon.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uy9MnQfk_0
Quote: Originally posted by advrider  | Never leave home without one, except when I go to Mexico! In Mexico I have several can's of high power wasp spray, it would give me enough time to get
away or take the gun pointed at me.
No way I want to see the inside of a Mexican prison, the US ones I work in are bad enough... Never felt like I needed one or wish I had one while
in Baja! |
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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Desertbull
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Exactly ... unless you train as a shooter under stressful situations and you can hit a 30 mph moving target ... I’ve traveled extensively on my
motorcycle solo thru the Yukon, Northwest Territories where the brown bear population is higher than the human population and rangers there only
suggest Bear Spray for survival in a bear attack. Good info!
| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | Two words: Bear Spray
I actually read some information in Wyoming about the use of a gun versus spray against bears. Surprisingly, the people who used bear spray were more
likely to survive than the gun owners, by almost 2 to 1!!!.
I guess because the spray comes out in a cloud about 25-35 feet out, where as a panicked human likely shoots wildly or on the run. I don't feel so
bad about leaving my .44 Magnum at home this summer and just packing bear spray.
It dawned on me that carrying bear spray against potential human threats, especially like somewhere in Baja, might be a great option. I used to pack
a hunting slingshot and .44 caliber lead balls, figured that would keep any banditos at bay. You can be quite accurate with a good slingshot.
John
[Edited on 9-5-2019 by John Harper] |
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SFandH
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Pepper spray is a better option for self defense, according to this article:
"Bear spray is typically more expensive than pepper spray, and harder to carry with you at all times because of its size. Pepper spray is small, easy
to use, and much stronger.
Your choice is clear: If you are serious about your self defense, buy a proper pepper spray. Leave the bear spray for the bears!"
https://www.selfdefenseninja.com/bear-spray-vs-pepper-spray-...
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BajaRat
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22 cal Mendoza repeating pellet rifle, tree saws
Large dogs with attitude and a well traveled family
The Mexican 22 cal Mendoza’s come in models that can deliver both lethal and non lethal messages
All legal choices, but I heard somewhere that bear spray is not
Anyone know the facts on the spray?
Thanks Lionel 
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BajaRat
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What do you carry JZ ?
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SFandH
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Pepper spray at Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/POLICE-MAGNUM-Pepper-Molded-Keychain/...
Think I'll get some. I'm one of those folks that think camping in Baja is getting more dangerous as time goes on.
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