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JZ
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What are the top trails to explore around Mulege and Bahia Concepcion
Got the Guadalupe Mission loop, Guajademi Trail, and tracks into San Sebastian/San Nicholas/Punta Pulpito.
What else? Any good stuff around Chivato?
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Nikno
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Check out Fort San Bruno and continue on to Ensenada de Mangle. There are some cool coves and remote beaches along there and several abandoned villas
by Ensenada de Mangle. There are also some additional trails to explore in that area if you look at satellite images though I have no idea if they go
anywhere. Here is a GPX track I recorded in June with some waypoints:
https://www.gaiagps.com/public/rFYSslDexMqZHhPU6ph17HX5
A loop that is quite fun and beautiful and not too difficult is head south on the 1, take the turn off towards San Isidro, head south to Comondu Viejo
mission, old road to San Jose del Comondu, San Javier, and loop back through Loreto. That can be done in a day from Mulege. Or from Comondu loop to La
Purisima, overnight and then Guajademi to Mulege. Lots of options in that area. I have GPS info if you need it for a particular trail.
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JZ
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Thank you. I've done the San Javier to Comondu route.
Have been to Ensenada de Mangle by boat (there are some cool caves a few mile North), but those trails are new to me. Will make for a fun day around
Loreto.
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In case you are looking at the road headed west from Mulege and over the pass to the Arroyo San Raymundo, I can give you old information.
In late November 2016, I followed Ged and Dave over to San Juanico on that route (me in a Kia, them on bikes). An experienced driver in a rugged 2wd
could make the run, but 4x4 allows for crawling through some of the rougher patches.
What appears to have been a route with many more river crossings, had been modified by storms (Norbert and Odile) so that much of the old high banks
were gone, or inaccessible. There was a track bulldozed down the river bottom in places, but there was very little sand or gravel, so it was a lot of
miles of cobbles and larger rocks!
I did not air down, because I was concerned about clearance, and I had no idea how long the cobbles would last. If I do the route again, I would
definitely air down!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Gary, Bailey, and the KIA,
Your rig managed it only with your bulldozer driving skills. That water crossing about 3 feet of water had me worried when you picked your own
line.... and got high-centered for a moment...
Pffftttt....who needs air-cooled leather seats... just something else to fail....
Don't believe everything you think....
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AKgringo
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Oh yeah....forgot about the high center! Remember me saying that something felt different? A long time later, after many miles off road and the
highway home, I discovered a broken motor mount.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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I did Arroyo San Raymundo in June 2019. Road was in great shape. I was able to average almost 30mph from the grade down and that was in the dark.
Granted, with a heavily modified Wrangler, but the road is passable in a 2WD with some clearance. There are still about 5 water crossings. The first 3
were only about 6-8 inches deep. By the 4th one I didn't even bother to slow down. Well, that one was more like 12 - 16 inches deep and sent water
flying straight over my roof and was a bit of a shock to the system. Pro tip: slow down for all water crossings unless you have already crossed it or
watched someone else cross it and know exactly how deep it is. Also, obviously better to not do it in the dark. There was a cow or two parked right on
the trail.
GPX:
https://www.gaiagps.com/datasummary/track/315fdb92dc3d58db68...
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Quote: Originally posted by Nikno  | Check out Fort San Bruno and continue on to Ensenada de Mangle. There are some cool coves and remote beaches along there and several abandoned villas
by Ensenada de Mangle.
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that means, the gate shortly after the San Bruno site is gone?
Harald Pietschmann
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JZ
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On the tracks he posted, it has a way point for Abandoned Gate.
A picture too:
[Edited on 9-8-2019 by JZ]
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Nikno | I did Arroyo San Raymundo in June 2019. Road was in great shape. I was able to average almost 30mph from the grade down and that was in the dark.
Granted, with a heavily modified Wrangler, but the road is passable in a 2WD with some clearance. There are still about 5 water crossings. The first 3
were only about 6-8 inches deep. By the 4th one I didn't even bother to slow down. Well, that one was more like 12 - 16 inches deep and sent water
flying straight over my roof and was a bit of a shock to the system. Pro tip: slow down for all water crossings unless you have already crossed it or
watched someone else cross it and know exactly how deep it is. Also, obviously better to not do it in the dark. There was a cow or two parked right on
the trail.
GPX:
https://www.gaiagps.com/datasummary/track/315fdb92dc3d58db68...
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You are got damn man for posting these tracks! Hope I can return the favor.
[Edited on 9-8-2019 by JZ]
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Nikno, thanks for the update!
Barring another flood, I wouldn't mind doing that San Raymundo run again! I am certain that we finished the arroyo on a different track than you.
There is a community about eight or ten miles north of San Juanico. We took a fork in the trail that brought us into the village from the north east.
If I remember correctly, there was a sign (or we decided) that the right fork went toward El Datile so we headed left to S.J. That was about where I
got high centered!
[Edited on 9-8-2019 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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JZ
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Route through Arroyo San Raymund in White for anyone trying to follow along.
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Agua de Gringo?
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It's what MulegeAl (I think it was him) called it. This was like a week or two ago. I asked him at the time if you could get all the way to the
coast from there and he didn't really give me a straight answer.
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I'm so close to retirement and ordering my new Gladiator truck and building my Baja expo rig so I can drive all of these awesome tracks and trips that
you guys are posting! Keep posting these ideas and tracks... Thanks to everyone that contribute's!
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| Quote: Originally posted by advrider | | I'm so close to retirement and ordering my new Gladiator truck and building my Baja expo rig so I can drive all of these awesome tracks and trips that
you guys are posting! Keep posting these ideas and tracks... Thanks to everyone that contribute's! |
Have you ever ridden the Magy Mesa trail? Trail begins at El Rosario, and the ridge line single track starts about 7-8 miles in.
Watch the first 2.5 mins of this, it gets really interesting at about 1.5mins: https://youtu.be/H6xmch5nBxk
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Harald:
As JZ posted there is an abandoned gate along the shore as shown in the pic. There was also some fencing and another abandoned gate straight north
from the fort and then instead of heading east to shore, heading west. That road shows up well on satellite but is completely abandoned and grown
over. I assume that this at one time was the access road that led to the abandoned villas. No other gates and no private property signs.
AKGringo:
The route I took goes down to La Ballena and then meets up with the ranch road going south to San Juanico. There is a turn off at approximately:
26.510556, -112.507738
That trail takes you over one arroyo through La Yaqui and directly into Cadejé which is probably the route you took. The route on my GPS track is
more frequently travelled and in better shape and even though a few extra miles, probably faster.
JZ and Harald:
There is a Cerro el Gringo on the 2009 Almanac pretty much right next to the spot marked, so not a stretch to think there might be a spot called Agua
de Gringo below it.
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Nikno, you are probably right about our track. I was navigating IFB (I follow bikes) and couldn't tell you for sure where we went!
Maybe some day I will progress to the point of sharing photos and tracks.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by advrider | | I'm so close to retirement and ordering my new Gladiator truck and building my Baja expo rig so I can drive all of these awesome tracks and trips that
you guys are posting! Keep posting these ideas and tracks... Thanks to everyone that contribute's! |
Have you ever ridden the Magy Mesa trail? Trail begins at El Rosario, and the ridge line single track starts about 7-8 miles in.
Watch the first 2.5 mins of this, it gets really interesting at about 1.5mins: https://youtu.be/H6xmch5nBxk
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[Edited on 9-9-2019 by advrider]
Never have but I now want to!!! Holly chit, tell me you have a track for that? That looks amazing and needs to be on the ride list for next year...
[Edited on 9-9-2019 by advrider]
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I have it. Scouted it out last weekend a little. Didn't have the bikes.
Want to have the drone follow us as we run it.
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