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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 01:26 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I disagree.
So, there we go... Some are on Nomad to learn more about Baja and some want nobody to learn more.

Bad people don't search the Internet for places to trash. They also don't buy 4x4s to get to remote places to trash. That's my experience after 55 years since first traveling there.


people do indeed buy 4x4s and other motor vehicles to trash Baja. Baja because it is wide open. No rangers. No consequences.
If they call themselves Desert Assassins you know what to expect.
Your buddy Cameron Steele is bad for Baja.
And on the subject of sharing - he splashes the wonders of Baja all over TV.
Opening another new road.




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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 02:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I disagree.
So, there we go... Some are on Nomad to learn more about Baja and some want nobody to learn more.

Bad people don't search the Internet for places to trash. They also don't buy 4x4s to get to remote places to trash. That's my experience after 55 years since first traveling there.


people do indeed buy 4x4s and other motor vehicles to trash Baja. Baja because it is wide open. No rangers. No consequences.
If they call themselves Desert Assassins you know what to expect.
Your buddy Cameron Steele is bad for Baja.
And on the subject of sharing - he splashes the wonders of Baja all over TV.
Opening another new road.


High-speed off-road full size pickups are driven to destroy. That Cameron Steele guy and his Assassins are @sshats. His videos are advertisements for himself. He has found suckers that sponsor him or provide free labor for his destructive off-road tours and his shop that sells off-road bling.
Off-roaders usually rip up roads, especially the ones that are off-roading for speed thrills instead of slow sight seeing trips.




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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 10:12 AM


there was a standoff this week in Baja Norte. Ranchers had enough of the crowd ripping through their land. Blocked the road. That they were dirt bikes and Razors makes it only marginally worse. Guns were drawn and it was pretty nasty shouting. The "fun" crowd was Mexican. They only copy what they learn from us.



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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 10:18 AM


Harald, do you have a location for that incident? Another reason to "share" is to avoid problem areas!



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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 10:26 AM


Cameron raises and donates thousands of dollars to help Baja, annually. Rancho Santa Marta Orphanage near San Vicente being one.

The Arce men you may have seen in one of the episodes I posted now have tents and cots given to them by Cameron. He asked them when we were there in May what could he do for them or bring them when he returns with the tour in June. Cameron does give back.

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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 04:26 PM


the Steele's number one priority is marketing the Steele's.......love em hate em either way those two can drive!:P
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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 05:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Harald, do you have a location for that incident? Another reason to "share" is to avoid problem areas!


no, I don't. It was a couple of videos on facebook. Somewhere between Ensenada and Tijuana




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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 05:52 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Harald, do you have a location for that incident? Another reason to "share" is to avoid problem areas!


no, I don't. It was a couple of videos on facebook. Somewhere between Ensenada and Tijuana


https://www.facebook.com/bajasports1/videos/382376842663265/...
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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 07:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by del mar  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Harald, do you have a location for that incident? Another reason to "share" is to avoid problem areas!


no, I don't. It was a couple of videos on facebook. Somewhere between Ensenada and Tijuana


https://www.facebook.com/bajasports1/videos/382376842663265/...


More proof that off-roaders are @ssholes. Looks like private rural roads among farms and ranch land, can’t blame locals for wanting to shoot the @ssholes making noise and dust. If it was my land, I would have shot up their vehicles, made them walk home.
Was that a Cameron steel group?




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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 08:05 PM


I'll stick to the first discussion. Anyone thinking they own a ''secret'' fishing hole or surf break is living in their own little world. And that's fine. These not too evolved souls want things for themselves, and that's fine too.

If I were to tell someone about a special place, why would I ask them to keep it a secret? Am I setting myself up for failure? When they break the promise, then what?

If fish are biting where I fish, guaranteed there will be 100 Mexicans shoulder to shoulder there at dawn. Fortunately, they don't fish with headlamps so I'll have about an hour in the dark before they can see what they're doing.





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[*] posted on 9-14-2019 at 10:28 PM


I know this has nothing to do with the original posting of taking someone to their fav fishing hole, but I'm hoping that someone who has watched the Facebook video can identify the sign in the video as to its location.

I agree that it takes just a few (or as in the video, a lot) riders to disrespect land owners (legal or perceived as legal owners) to screw it royally for the majority of us who are sensitive to these issues. I'd be peeed as well if yahoos continually treated my back yard as if it was their own personal playground. Myself, I always make it a point to stop and talk to the majority of people we see on our travels, stop and pull over with engines stopped if we see a rider on a horse, and slow to no dust riding by homes.



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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 12:51 AM


Post the link to the video so we can see more of the area. Looks like near San Vicente?




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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 03:44 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Post the link to the video so we can see more of the area. Looks like near San Vicente?


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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 07:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by KasloKid  


I'd be peeed as well if yahoos continually treated my back yard as if it was their own personal playground. Myself, I always make it a point to stop and talk to the majority of people we see on our travels, stop and pull over with engines stopped if we see a rider on a horse, and slow to no dust riding by homes.


Kaslo, your behaviour is saint-like, you will be awarded a dozen brownie points today.
Unfortunately, the majority of off-roaders do not do what you do. Especially when they travel in large groups like in the video.




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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 09:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Post the link to the video so we can see more of the area. Looks like near San Vicente?


I thought it was the Compadre trail?
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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 09:24 AM


Thanks Harald. The video was short, so no idea of what the road going there looks like. Recorded voices are in Spanish. Is there more, Don Pisto?



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That video was shot very near Tijuana. Basically in the mountains between TJ and Valle de Guadalupe. Kind of near El Gato. I have driven some of those trails. Not the friendliest place to ride. Lots of private property, lots of locked gates, lots of trails that end at a ranch or a fence. I would recommend avoiding that area for a number of reasons. Also, there are local tour operators that do ATV and motocross tours in the area. My guess is that this dispute has been simmering for years.
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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 10:05 AM


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"Kaslo, your behaviour is saint-like, you will be awarded a dozen brownie points today. " Your sarcasm is noted...

I think I may have figured it out... the large lettering in the sign could be "Kumiai". The Kumiai are an indigenous group of people who's livelihood depends on eco-tourism. They are situated in the Guadalupe Valley wine country.

http://bajacaliforniabest.com/en/ecotourism-with-the-kumiai-...

https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajastoryteller/kum...



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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 10:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thanks Harald. The video was short, so no idea of what the road going there looks like. Recorded voices are in Spanish. Is there more, Don Pisto?


there was a 2nd video somewhere




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[*] posted on 9-15-2019 at 11:21 AM


My best guess:

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