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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 11:57 AM
Baja Airplane Wrecks


I love exploring abandoned and unusual places and things. One of the things I always find fascinating are airplane wrecks. I am wondering if people know of any airplane wrecks in Baja that can be explored. Please add pictures and GPS info if you have it. Here is a list of the ones I know about :

Mexicali 727 at 32.500530, -115.396740

This is possibly the most famous airplane wreckage in Baja. It was featured in a Discovery Channel special. It was crashed remotely on the Laguna Salada west of Mexicali in 2012. The wreckage was brought here and is on display on Highway 5 between Mexicali and San Felipe.

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DC-3 at about 29.29250, -114.11585

This wreckage was described by Erle Stanley Gardner in "Hovering Over Baja" so it crashed before 1961. I don't have the exact coordinates and I am unsure if there is still any wreckage visible. I can't see anything on satellite images. If anyone knows the exact location or has seen this wreckage, please reply. I would like to hike up here and check it out if I can get more information.


Helicopter at 29.42288, -114.19482

Fascinating story behind this wreckage. This helicopter was lost for many years and then discovered by chance during the Baja 1000 only about 1,000 feet away from the route. There were supposed to be 3 people on board but only 2 bodies were found. The missing person was a drug lord. There has been speculation that he faked his death.


Old wreckage in Juncalito Bay near Loreto at approx. 25.839700, -111.316781

An old 2 engine plane in 22 feet of water that can be visited on a dive tour. Either a B-24 or Dc-3 depending on reports. (Although a B-24 appears to be 4 engines). According to reports on Nomad, it was still visible in 2014.

Who knows of other wrecks? I heard about one near San Francisquito but it may have been cleaned up. Erle has a photo of another wreck in the middle of the desert in his book but the location is unclear. Does anyone know about that one?


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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 01:00 PM


Great thread topic. I know someone who hiked up to see the wreckage. He is a Nomad but doesn't post anymore. There are great views from up on that mountain east of El Crucero. I will dig up the posts and hopefully photos from 'billb' who wanted to go to the places Gardner did. Including Salsipuedes Canyon, whose headwater is just east of the crash site.



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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 01:44 PM


I have found a number of wrecked planes over the years
always moved on as fast as I could




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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 03:30 PM


Ok, I bumped up two old threads that discussed the DC-3 site with GPS and Google Earth images. The photos of the wreck that BillB sent me were hosted by Nomad and vanished when Doug upgraded the forum (with a promise they would be restored one day). I will keep searching!



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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 04:32 PM


Plane crash sites are places of death. If that is what you want, stop at any cross/memorial on the hwy for your taste of macabre.



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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 05:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Plane crash sites are places of death. If that is what you want, stop at any cross/memorial on the hwy for your taste of macabre.


Wow debbie downer!! Not true though. Many people survive plane crashes ;D




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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 06:30 PM


Cool, interesting topic. I have hiked/rode to several in California and Nevada.
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[*] posted on 10-15-2019 at 09:07 PM


29° 1'10.25"N, 118°16'41.48"W



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[*] posted on 10-17-2019 at 10:44 AM


Great find, Harald! Isla Guadalupe has been on my bucket list for some time. Also, I agree, if you come across a fresh wreck in the middle of nowhere, probably a good idea to get the hell out of there unless you want to end up on an episode of Narcos.

David, thank you for bumping those threads. I can't identify any wreckage on the satellite but it's also been up there 70 years and there probably isn't much left or it's rusted out and scattered. I might check it out someday.
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[*] posted on 10-17-2019 at 03:46 PM


I emailed BillB asking if he still can send those mountaintop photos.. I have not heard back yet.





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[*] posted on 10-17-2019 at 09:21 PM


I remember locals at Alfonsina's talking about discovering a wreck during a hike between Papa's and Mision Santa Maria
lost the location file I had in Google Earth
anyone?




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[*] posted on 10-19-2019 at 06:55 AM


Mesa avion...all we found were some beautiful wild horses after seeping the whole Mesa by foot
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[*] posted on 10-19-2019 at 07:58 AM


how did you get to Mesa el Avion?
It is a big mesa - more than 6 miles long
if there is any wreckage, it would be hard to find

the name does not necessarily mean that an airplane crashed there
could mean that it was used as a practice airfield

there is one of those in Death Valley
no roads leading to it - just a strip on a small mesa




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[*] posted on 10-19-2019 at 08:02 AM


the Death Valley strip:
36°48'50.00"N, 117°43'19.02"W




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[*] posted on 10-19-2019 at 08:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
how did you get to Mesa el Avion?
It is a big mesa - more than 6 miles long
if there is any wreckage, it would be hard to find

the name does not necessarily mean that an airplane crashed there
could mean that it was used as a practice airfield

there is one of those in Death Valley
no roads leading to it - just a strip on a small mesa


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[*] posted on 10-20-2019 at 11:04 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the Death Valley strip:
36°48'50.00"N, 117°43'19.02"W


36°33'34.2"N 117°35'19.1"W

this one in saline valley has a US flag marking the spot where an A-6 aircraft went down.
pilot and bombadier lost.
short hike up a Steep trail(?) with a mesa with strewn A-6 pieces.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2019 at 11:51 AM


Airplane wrecks are pretty cool. We found three WW2 fighters in New Guinea years ago.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2019 at 07:07 AM


Thanks for the link David! I think the road in to base camp was perhaps more exciting than challenging than the hike itself. 4x4abc- we spent a night on the Mesa and the next day we fanned out and did a sweep of the Mesa...
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[*] posted on 10-22-2019 at 08:16 AM


Harald the road in is the right fork just north of El Sauce de Carter. This is the closet vehicle approach to Cerro Matomi and Mesa Avion that I have seen.



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[*] posted on 11-3-2019 at 10:57 PM


This photo made the rounds on nomad and other sites. I cant remember where in Baja it was,

Looks like a Mexican registered C-206

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