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[*] posted on 11-11-2019 at 03:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
KML to KMZ
Open the KML in Google earth
Hover your mouse over the track and right click then choose "save place as" and save file in KMZ format.
If the file is still too big try deleting a portion.
Or like was said above copy the GE trackimsom make a path.


GREAT SUCCESS! Thank you, Paul...

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[*] posted on 11-11-2019 at 03:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KasloKid  
One can always use gps visualizer to convert files to your requirements. It's an online tool, and the download will be a bunch of strange numbers, but you can change the name of the file to whatever you need. I use this all the time, in fact, if I try to open a file and get a corrupt message, I'll run it through gpsvisualizer and the end result is a useable file.

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What a fun page! I have seen it before but never spent much time on it.
Thank you...

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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 08:45 AM


David, What happened here:



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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 08:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I don't know what you are showing me?

The satellite image used by Google is old, does not show new highway construction.

OK, I see that is north of Las Arrastras... What is the question?

[Edited on 11-12-2019 by David K]

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Zoomed way in when I was looking for side roads.
Just a joggle in the track, Did you backup for some reason?
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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 09:06 AM


If this was my May 2019 track, I was a passenger in a Raptor driven by Curt LeDuc... along with other Raptors in Cameron's Trail of Missions Recon. I do not recall that we ever stopped along here or backed up. I think we used the dirt detour as crews were active on the new pavement and it was blocked off. In August of 2018 when I drove here, I was on the new paving as it was not blocked off fully.



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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 10:53 AM


why can't we get a kmz of TW's (accurate) track?



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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 10:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
why can't we get a kmz of TW's (accurate) track?


TW's???

I posted my KMZ, did you see it?


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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 11:21 AM


I see, Tom only has a SPOT



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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 02:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I see, Tom only has a SPOT

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If he is using SPOT then he can export a GPX/KML file once he figures out how.
The problem with SPOT export file is you get the default track points with no ability to increase the points per unit time. The result is the low quality track with a lot of straight lines that do not follow the curvy road. Like DK's KMZ

Tom usually carries a Garmin Nuvi, but in the past he only uses it to log waypoints.
John accompanying Tom and John use a real Lowrance so when he posts his files they will be dead on. John is very up to speed on all this stuff.

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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 03:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I see, Tom only has a SPOT

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If he is using SPOT then he can export a GPX/KML file once he figures out how.
The problem with SPOT export file is you get the default track points with no ability to increase the points per unit time. The result is the low quality track with a lot of straight lines that do not follow the curvy road. Like DK's KMZ

Tom usually carries a Garmin Nuvi, but in the past he only uses it to log waypoints.
John accompanying Tom and John use a real Lowrance so when he posts his files they will be dead on. John is very up to speed on all this stuff.



so there is hope we'll see a good track




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[*] posted on 11-12-2019 at 07:48 PM


TW posted on Facebook this:

Coco was in good spirits at the same location. We didn't stay too long, dropped off a few supplies and some small talk.




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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 09:45 AM
David's In Reach track is right on the money


We came through there Monday afternoon and followed a route that seems to be exactly as the green track David posted.

I did make a track as we drove this bypass and will post info later today or tomorrow. Easy drive, only 3 or so miles of the old road bed.

Construction was in high gear through the remaining mountain cuts.

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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 10:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John M  
We came through there Monday afternoon and followed a route that seems to be exactly as the green track David posted.

I did make a track as we drove this bypass and will post info later today or tomorrow. Easy drive, only 3 or so miles of the old road bed.

Construction was in high gear through the remaining mountain cuts.

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Thanks John, I will look forward to your Trip Report. I hope to see some kilometer marker notes too...?




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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 11:57 AM


When I drove it last month I don't recall any KM markers along the newest pavement. It really isn't "finished" just paved.
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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 12:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bkbend  
When I drove it last month I don't recall any KM markers along the newest pavement. It really isn't "finished" just paved.


Thanks...
I am also seeking the markers that were installed south from L.A. Bay. There were none when I logged the road in 2017. I would like to confirm if Km. 0 is where the dirt road begins (by Xitlali Market/ Tire shop corner). Then I could add the equivalent kilometer point to my mile point. However, it would be best to note where they actually put the markers in relation to the points in my log: Camp Gecko, south bay road, Las Flores jailhouse road, Terminal Canyon road, Green Door (old) road, Las Animas Road, Pancho's San Rafael road, south end of Green Door road, Jcn. with old El Arco road, New El Arco road.




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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 04:18 PM
Signs on the "New Road"


Westbound from Gonzaga, at Km 179 are these signs - turning left here takes you back on the nicely graded "old road" about five miles to Coco's. This is about at Las Arrastras.

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If you were to take the above turn to Coco's, and wanted to continue west to Chapala then you would need to get back on the "old road" (slow/a little rocky) for several miles before getting back onto the new roadbed.






Coming from the west, you are on a short detour when you see these signs. Straight for Coco's and left to get back onto the new roadbed.

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[*] posted on 11-13-2019 at 04:38 PM


Good job, John!




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[*] posted on 11-19-2019 at 10:43 AM
Bypass track


I have deciphered a corrupted track that John made with his GPS
GPS GPX track s attached
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[*] posted on 11-19-2019 at 11:17 AM


Checking over my notes, if they have a Km. 179 post at the branch to Coco's (the former route south), it might be 3 kms. too many, like the signs near the older detour/ end of pavement were briefly before being changed a few years ago. It was Km. 170 and Gonzaga Pemex was 150. They changed the Pemex marker to 147 and the last one to 167.

In August 2018, the last marker, at Chapala, was Km. 200, which I also estimated to be about 3 kms. too many. Might be a project to check out? The ArcGIS satellite map is newer than Google Earth and the new route can be traced with a measurement track.

The old end of pavement detour was at Km. 167.5 (formerly 170.5).
The old road/ route to Coco's heading south is 8.5 kilometers away. That means the marker by it should be Km. 176. That John notes it is Km. 179 would mean they are back at the 3 kms. too high numbers.

I can also measure that it is 3 kms. from the La Turquesa Canyon road to Coco's branch (old road), which would put it at Km. 176. Provided there is a way to get from the new pavement onto it and no barb wire fence added.




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[*] posted on 11-19-2019 at 11:36 AM


Pretty easy to log the distance miles or kilometers for the GE file I posted. Of course the placement of the signs would not be coordinated very close.
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