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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 08:22 AM


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I'm in PD. (Palm Desert). Drove through YV the other day on the way to JT.;););)
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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 09:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  
Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Quote: Originally posted by mojo_norte  
Motel maids ?


Of course, they are underpaid and a tip can make a big difference for them.


Don't leave a maid's tip in the room or in that little envelope if you can avoid it. The early check out clerk (and most any clerk) is responsible for checking the room out for anything stolen by the client. Those same clerks are also keen to perusing for any 'tip' left for the maid. I know this from speaking with some of the maids at the motels I have stayed in.

To avoid detection by management of a tip, I put the folded up tip in the palm of my hand and shake the hand of the person I'm giving it to. This avoids detection and levels the field between the giver and the taker. I do this with police who escort me out of a busy city (Like DF) or assist me in some other manner and waiters as well.


Totally agree... I started tipping the maids directly and it sure was appreciated . Also if needing extra towels , it's never a problem...:light:




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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 09:29 AM
Tipping?


I thought that was a city in China! ;)

[Edited on 2-7-2020 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 01:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I thought that was a city in China! ;)

[Edited on 2-7-2020 by AKgringo]


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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 01:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Man_With_Gas  
The Baja Sur economy is not reflective of Mexico & gringos have ruined it by OVER tipping to make themselves feel better & superior.

Foreigners should RESPECT local economies & not distort & ruin it.

This is NOT America OR Canada so why ruin it. So MANY other countries DO NOT have a tipping culture.

Most people came to Mexico because of its economy & most have ruined it here in Baja Sur.

If you MUST tip, to make yourself feel good, it should be no greater than 10% of the bill.

If it needs further explanation you'll never understand the economies of countries & the impact of it should it be d*icked with.

Spread the word.


You are ridiculous saying that “over tipping” ruins the economy.
You are a cheap skate, and the waiters at your regular restaurant dread your arrival,... they compete amongst themselves to avoid serving you, knowing that you are a bad tipper and your flatulence is nauseating :lol:




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[*] posted on 2-7-2020 at 04:18 PM


then again maybe gas-man appreciates a little secret sauce on his taco?
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[*] posted on 2-8-2020 at 11:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
Quote: Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95  
A fellow who works in a restaurant told me the difference between a Canadian and a canoe.......canoe's tip


As a Canadian I had a good laugh the first time I heard that from fellow Nomad Howard. Not sure how true it is ? If the food and service is good I tip, but I have never tipped an canoe😎


A Mexican bartender told me this joke also but it was the difference between a Canuck and a canoe. She also splits all of her tips with the kitchen staff.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2020 at 01:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
To me.

Restaurants 25-30 percent. Other services provided 20 percent minimum.

Back in the day (Baja), usually a buck for the kids bagging.

But then, NOB, I'm probably the only guy in town who tips the (usually two-three) guys who dig out and pump my septic tank $20.00 each.

Before changing vendors here in YV, I used to always tip the attendants filling my propane tanks, but the current "Christian" outfit pointedly refused my efforts. Go figure.



Possibly the most enlightened post on this thread. Maybe because it's the way I tip.

Bill's probably right, too. Steve is likely a cheapskate.





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[*] posted on 2-8-2020 at 03:18 PM


North or South of the border-------good service gets a tip, and the better the service the bigger the tip. Bad service no tip. In between service is tipped appropriately. Good service is a reflection of 'character', and I always reward 'character'.

What's "customary" is irrelevant to me.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2020 at 03:35 PM


At least the Peso is trending fairly stable right now, so we can make adjustments without too much mental arithmetic.

When I crossed the border southbound in late Feb 1986, the peso was 160 to the dollar. Two months later it was at 350 to $1!

Just figuring out what to pay was tough, let alone a fair tip. In the long run, Mexico was on sale that year!




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[*] posted on 2-9-2020 at 09:59 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
At least the Peso is trending fairly stable right now, so we can make adjustments without too much mental arithmetic.

When I crossed the border southbound in late Feb 1986, the peso was 160 to the dollar. Two months later it was at 350 to $1!

Just figuring out what to pay was tough, let alone a fair tip. In the long run, Mexico was on sale that year!


So for perspective, what was the price of tacos and a 12 pack of beer that year?




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[*] posted on 2-9-2020 at 11:17 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Man_With_Gas  
Quote: Originally posted by dravnx  
I tip well because I can. The difference between $1 and $5 is negligible to me and means a lot to the low wage worker I just tipped.
I learned an important lesson once about this.
I stopped at a small border town to buy some planters. I don't remember where it was but there were a lot of pottery shops along the road. We picked out about 5 pots and I started negotiating with the owner. It must have been a slow day because he sold these 5 gallons pots for very cheap. I payed him and started loading the camper and my truck with the pots. The owner loaded his 3 kids and wife into their beater car and drove off. We loaded the pots and then took a break to eat our picnic lunch. Just as we were finishing up, the guy came back and everyone piled out of the car with groceries. I thought to myself "self, you could have easily given more then you did and look what they did with the little you did give". That ended my "I can drive a hard bargain" days.


You want to feel good about yourself? Give to charities that are supporting disabled people, what about charity for returning soldiers who lost limbs etc etc, orphans etc etc...

Don't stuff up the Mexican economy so you feel good about yourself. Give where it is TRULY needed for those who CAN'T earn due to their disabilities.


I suspect that those who believe in tipping service workers are most likely to also be supporters of charitable causes. One has nothing to do with the other.
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[*] posted on 2-9-2020 at 02:23 PM


Man_With_Gas , I'm with you 1000%

Me thinks some people get their ego involved and it mess's up their good sense ....

Also (besides the ego angle) people may be over-tipping to "be kind and generous"..
But in doing so they unwittingly disrupt the economics of the place they are visiting.

So PLEASE consider this and tip as the locals do. A few extra percent for great service is fine though....

[Edited on 2-11-2020 by Paco Facullo]




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[*] posted on 2-9-2020 at 10:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Man_With_Gas  

Don't bother counter arguing the above as I know what I know ( I live here) so don't waste your breath responding negatively as I won't see it any differently.


Pretty much sums up Steve's argument. He's right, seasoned nomads are wrong, and his 2 years total in Baja makes him an authority. Fish out of water.

Show of hands, please. Who cares about tipping or Cabo?




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[*] posted on 2-10-2020 at 09:19 AM


I have the greatest respect for people that don't suffer fools easily, as long as they don't act and speak like one.



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[*] posted on 2-10-2020 at 09:26 AM


Wow! Just a note to the moderator; I been checking an and out if this website for over 10 years and it used to be a very informative website. Unfortunately, you let trolls like motegoat and man with gas and a couple others just ruin it. They are incapable of having a mature conversation without name calling for just flat out trolling. After this, I am done with this forum along with many of my friends who have checked out of this website already because of the same reason.

As far as Cabo —- if you choose to live in a tourist city it will ALWAYS be more expensive whether you tip or not. No matter what country you live in. Deal with it; you choose to live there. Don't down other people for tipping just because it was your culture in some other country that you grew up in not to tip. It is the Mexican culture to tip; just like the US. Min wage is not even $7 A DAY here. In many of these small towns they only work off of tips. Dive masters go out all day catering to customers (sometimes saving there lives) to come back after a long day not earning a dime because they didn't get one tip. If you cant come down here and respect the culture go back where you came from. Rant over.

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[*] posted on 2-10-2020 at 10:36 AM
Keeping the Third-World as You Like It.


I've heard Aussie Stevie's argument before from a (once) good German friend and work associate who was recruited in College by IBM and since traveled/worked in numerous Middle East and Asian foreign locales before immigrating to the U.S.

I tend to discount his bias given that his Vater was a dedicated follower of the Fuhrer and a WWII Wehrmacht Non-Com who influenced many of his son's questionable viewpoints on racial/ethnic inferiors. Which, back in our Data Network Support days together, he often shared.

Being a typical "forceful" German, he would not only "share" his view on tipping, but ONCE (only) reached over and took part of a tip that I had left and handed it back saying "you tip too much". Putting it BACK, I said "don't EVER [F-ing] do that again". Again, being typically German, he was surprised that I was offended.

Of course, over the many years traveling in Baja, including my 32 years as a "residente/visitante" in Percebu, I met a number of (non-German) Gringo residents who held similar views, but they were generally those retirees trying to live on the cheap as much as possible.

The Aussie may be just one of those OR .......................... ???
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[*] posted on 2-10-2020 at 04:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Man_With_Gas  
Quote: Originally posted by vespaio  
I have the greatest respect for people that don't suffer fools easily, as long as they don't act and speak like one.


Another d*ickhead I see.

Bring 'something' to the thread instead of your offhand attempt.

Waste of time in the extreme.

[Edited on 2-10-2020 by Man_With_Gas]



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