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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 08:47 AM
Baja Mutts and Morals




A few days ago I found a female mutt, dead, in the middle of a dirt road not far from the beach. It was well out of town close to a brushy area. Three of her scrawny pups had escaped the car/truck accident that killed their mother. They were probably still sucklings when she died and as I pulled up, stopped, I could see they were eating her meat. They ran and hid in the thick brush when I pulled what was left of the corpse off the road into the shade by the brush.

I was filled with repulsion and sadness ? at a loss as to what to do about the carcass, the pups. Should I bury the carcass? The pups will die without food. If I bury the carcass, if the pups leave the area maybe they won?t find the food I intend to bring back here, leave for them. I thought ?Here I go again, throwing my morals into mother nature?s arena where human values don?t belong.?

I left the carcass in the shade of the bush to sustain the pups, keep them off the road. They were wild and spooky, well protected in the brush. They stood a slim chance against predators, dehydration and starvation if they could get some water, more food. I went to the house and brought back several small containers of water, dog food, placed it all strategically under the heavy brush. Every day when I returned with more food and water I could see they (something) had partaken of some of the food, all of the water. On the fifth day the carcass had been carried off ? probably by vultures, coyotes or tejone, badgers -- some of the food was gone, the water was still in the vessels. No sign of the pups.

Now I keep second-guessing myself about burying the mutt. Probably the outcome is exactly the same, I carry around a little more sadness or some kind of misplaced guilt because I didn?t bury the poor thing.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 09:13 AM


What you did was very well thought out and humane, IMHO. :saint:



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thumbup.gif posted on 3-24-2005 at 09:16 AM
most people would have done nothing--thanks for caring






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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 09:20 AM


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I think you did the right thing. nature can seem cruel sometimes but everything is for a purpose.:saint:




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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 09:39 AM
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last christmas going down to mulege,i spotted the dead dogs on the road quite frequently....but then i saw something that really made me look....just when we were as far away from civilization as we could be,a dog would come out of the brush on the side of the road......leaving me to wonder how the hell the dog got there and how was it surviving out there????
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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 09:48 AM


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last christmas going down to mulege,i spotted the dead dogs on the road quite frequently....but then i saw something that really made me look....just when we were as far away from civilization as we could be,a dog would come out of the brush on the side of the road......leaving me to wonder how the hell the dog got there and how was it surviving out there????


Dogs have been surviving without people since way before there were people.




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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 03:31 PM
Perros.....


Unfortunately, surplus dogs in Mexico or Baja don't survive very long...unlike the canines in US, Canada, or Europe. This is an old, old story for all pet people.

We need more veternarians...like the kind and caring lady vet at the Oasis in Mulege.

I have come across dog skeletons in the desert...tied up with wire lassos to a cactus and left there to die a terrible death. Saw a Baja fishcamp teenage girl twist the head off a kitten..and stopped the killing of the other 4 by taking them home. Seen countless homeless puppies next to roadkilled b-tches. Seen what indescriminate poisoning by baits with rat-killer can do to a poor dog. You try to feel some compassion for these evil-doers and forgive them...but that's damn hard.
But we do what we can with what we have...and hope for some improvements as times change.

Once when a few of us were camped out in the desert southwest of here, I came upon a female puppy who had been clearly abandoned for just a short time..because she was still alive! She wouldn't quite let me get my hands on her at first..just staying out of reach, but eating and drinking my offerings. Within a few hours she trusted me to pet her and after that she let it all hang out! Like a sunburst she was exuberant, full of life, and remained with us constantly. Of course, there never was any doubt but that she would come home with us when we broke camp. My camping companions, Johnny & Cindy, fell in love with the little tyke, too, and seeing as how they had recently lost thier ship's cat, Cuervo, to a coyote, I presented them the little orphaned pooch..which they promptly named Panoche (brown sugar)...and then promptly re-named to just plain 'Noche' when they found out what the slang word, panoche, meant!!:spingrin: Well, that was many a year ago, and Noche has traveled a fair distance from Baja with them...in loving care. She is in the arms of Cindy and Johnny Tequila at their Lonesome Dove rancherito near Coyote Bay..see photo. (Almost like the story of Lefty, Killer Caine's pooch..another community-saved dog adopted by a pet-lover)

I love dogs and cats and women...and with that in mind there's an old saying that goes...'Cats and women will do as they please, and dogs and men should just get used to the idea!'

Here's some of my favorite dogs...including the ones I painted on my duck-truck and decoy-trailer!;D

( a great short story about that dog-painted rear-end on my duk-truk. That Suburban was a little famous Up North and was called "Two Dogs F.....ing!" Once in Canada on a goose-hunting trip we were walking out of a local pub and a couple of the local gals were laughing and pointing at my two painted pooches 'doing their thing'. "Do you like my retrievers?" says I. One of the gals laughingly says back, "Well, one looks more like a 'receiver' than a 'retriever'!"




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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 03:54 PM


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You try to feel some compassion for these evil-doers and forgive them.


Why?

People who mistreat animals are the lowest of the low and quite probably, sociopaths.

It's one thing to refuse assistance to abandoned pets, quite another to abuse or abandon them after they become dependent of your care.

In my book there is only ONE thing worse than animal abuse.....Abusing children.

Find one and you'll likely find the other.




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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 04:07 PM


Way to go Dave, your right on the money. There is no excuse for animal abuse.

I hear there is going to be an animal shelter here in Loreto, sure hope so, we need it very much.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 04:34 PM


Hold up a minute, Dave....I have a special place and part I like to cut when it comes to animal abusers. I think you may have taken a little of my comment out of context..(you don't work for CNN, do you?)..or maybe I didn't state my attitude strongly enough about animal abusers.

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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 06:28 PM


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I think you may have taken a little of my comment out of context


Yeah, sorry. I just don't feel there is any room for Christian charity when it comes to these people. The story about the teenage girl was chilling. Those kinds of kids can grow up to be serial killers. I probably would have had "words" with her parents.




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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 07:54 PM
the correct word is "panocha", not "panoche"


if I remember my curse words correctly, but I am out of practice in using them



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[*] posted on 3-25-2005 at 05:04 AM


Thanks for the correction, BajaVida...and now that I recollect, it was indeed that pronunciation. Little 'Nocha' is running around in the SW Utah desert right now, I expect...probably after a tennis ball. Those were great times in the desert with that ball of coyote bait.



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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 01:29 PM


The worst animal abusers are the people that breed and sell animals on the classified ads and corners, theres already plenty of animals in shelters and on the street, these "breeders" have no shame to mass produce animals knowing full well that many of them will end up on the street starving.

Thank again our glorious stupid and incompetent goverment.
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[*] posted on 3-27-2005 at 06:13 AM
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We have 6 dogs - only 1 bought - the others saved - all our dogs are cherished - the love they give to us has no price - I cannot understand people who abuse animals - but what can we do about it ? 6 dogs is our limit - but there has to be something we can do to stop the rampant abuse & negelect !!!! I think these people should be treated as they treat their animals - but that won't happen - so what can we do ?????????????????????:fire::fire:
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[*] posted on 3-27-2005 at 06:33 AM


Well Price, you have already done it...by using this forum and your voice. It's all about changing attitudes and education.
Getting b-tches spayed, pet adoptions, educating/punishing animal abusers, showing animal abuse to be un-macho and cowardly, etc. etc.

A little at a time....




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