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BajaTed
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If everybody does their part to "flatten the curve" the hospitals will not be overwhelmed.
But since this country ain't being led normally but deplorably at this moment in time, i'm not very hopeful.
Es Todo Bueno
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaTed  | If everybody does their part to "flatten the curve" the hospitals will not be overwhelmed.
But since this country ain't being led normally but deplorably at this moment in time, i'm not very hopeful.
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Mike pence will pray for us all (well, all except the queers). He will pray the disease away! 
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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paranewbi
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Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self.
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self. |
Which of the 3000 gods man has invented are you referring to? #hook,line and sinker
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self. |
A bunch of fairy tales.
Glad they make you feel good, but they got no role in government or public policy.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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paranewbi
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self. |
A bunch of fairy tales.
Glad they make you feel good, but they got no role in government or public policy. |
Ask the men who formed this nation 
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Bajazly
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This is a couple days old but pretty good info, written well and straight forward.
https://www.howardluksmd.com/sports-medicine/covid-19-update...
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
Harald Pietschmann
"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self. |
A bunch of fairy tales.
Glad they make you feel good, but they got no role in government or public policy. |
Ask the men who formed this nation |
You mean those pious religious men who practiced slavery and considered women non-citizens unworthy of voting in their democracy?
I am sure that they used religion to justify their wrongs
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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paranewbi
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Actually Goat, we pray for all. You probably wouldn't know that because of your personal disdain as you exhibit in your word choice for labeling
others.
And just to enlighten you somewhat... we don't pray for others to change; we pray for them to realize the existence of a loving God who wants a
relationship with them. Change, if any, comes about because of that relationship.
Much like the change most men go through with acquiescing to their wives as love grows.
Mike Pence is in a relationship with a God who loves...It was shocking to the Hebrews who were surrounded by gods that looked upon men as a nuisance.
Here was a God that sought them out of love. No other 'god' wanted a relationship with all. That is still the same today...you seem to worship one of
those. We call that the self. |
A bunch of fairy tales.
Glad they make you feel good, but they got no role in government or public policy. |
Ask the men who formed this nation |
You mean those pious religious men who practiced slavery and considered women non-citizens unworthy of voting in their democracy?
I am sure that they used religion to justify their wrongs |
Product of a public education Goat?
The three 'r's weren't reading, writing and arithmetic either. But I'm sure you think r, w, a, are all r's.
Your terminology 'queers' is insight into your pompous self imaging.
Those men also set up the foundation of Liberty and Justice... those building blocks still hold up the reason you still can espouse your inner
prejudices exposed in your words.
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bajabuddha
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Meanwhilst, Goathead and Bishop Paranewbi doth joust at the pulpit!
Talley Ho! 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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chippy
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OOps. Sorry.
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Lee
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Hey, like minds and all that. Vid is worth mentioning again.
My current favorite words about the current clusterf*ck:
shlt show, and, egregious dumbf*ckery.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Skipjack Joe
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... which work well in lieu of toilet paper.
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Skipjack Joe
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What is being done to find an effective treatment?
Vaccines and treatment options for COVID-19 are currently being investigated around the world. There’s some evidence that certain medications may
have the potential to be effective with regard to preventing illness or treating the symptoms of COVID-19.
However, researchers need to perform randomized controlled trialsTrusted Source in humans before potential vaccines and other treatments become
available. This may take several months or longer.
Here are some treatment options that are currently being investigated for protection against SARS-CoV-2 and treatment of COVID-19 symptoms.
Remdesivir
Remdesivir is an experimental broad-spectrum antiviral drug originally designed to target Ebola.
Researchers have found that remdesivir is highly effective at fighting the novel coronavirus in isolated cellsTrusted Source.
This treatment is not yet approved in humans, but two clinical trials for this drug have been implemented in China. One clinical trial was recently
also approved by the FDA in the United States.
Chloroquine
Chloroquine is a drug that’s used to fight malaria and autoimmune diseases. It’s been in use for more than 70 yearsTrusted Source and is
considered safe.
Researchers have discovered that this drug is effective at fighting the SARS-CoV-2 virus in studies done in test tubes.
At least 10 clinical trialsTrusted Source are currently looking at the potential use of chloroquine as an option for combating the novel coronavirus.
Lopinavir and ritonavir
Lopinavir and ritonavir are sold under the name Kaletra and are designed to treat HIV.
In South Korea, a 54-year-old man was given a combination of these two drugs and had a significant reductionTrusted Source in his levels of the
coronavirus.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there could be benefits to using Kaletra in combination with other drugs.
APN01
A clinical trial is set to start soon in China to examine the potential of a drug called APN01 to fight the novel coronavirus.
The scientists who first developed APN01 in the early 2000s discovered that a certain protein called ACE2 is involved in SARS infections. This protein
also helped protect the lungs from injury due to respiratory distress.
From recent research, it turns out that the 2019 coronavirus, like SARS, also uses the ACE2 protein to infect cells in humans.
The randomized, dual-arm trial will look at the effect of the medication on 24 patients for 1 week. Half of the participants in the trial will receive
the APN01 drug, and the other half will be given a placebo. If results are encouraging, larger clinical trials will be done.
Favilavir
China has approved the use of the antiviral drug favilavir to treat symptoms of COVID-19. The drug was initially developed to treat inflammation in
the nose and throat.
Although the results of the study haven’t been released yet, the drug has supposedly shown to be effective in treating COVID-19 symptoms in a
clinical trial of 70 people.
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mtgoat666
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Where would you rather have pneumonia from covid-19, in USA or Mexico?
Does baja med system have sufficient respirators to handle increase in patients from epidemic?
Is baja govt working to flatten the curve?
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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pauldavidmena
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I saw this in yesterday's Gringo Gazette:
I'm not sure if this is 1) not accurate, 2) a by-product of insufficient testing, or 3) a stroke of luck.
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AKgringo
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A tacky bit of 1970s humor
Firesign Theatre; Beat the Reaper!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3zZ_ih0Jpc
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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motoged
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Igor,
Science busy at work....the kids that were teased as nerds in school might save us all.
Medication news on another note:
ED issues for men have a new hope. Two new medications currently under trials are Mydixadud and Mycoxafloppin.
They are looking for more men for the drug study.... I thought of a few here who might be interested.
| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | Vaccines and treatment options for COVID-19 are currently being investigated around the world. There’s some evidence that certain medications may
have the potential to be effective with regard to preventing illness or treating the symptoms of COVID-19.
However, researchers need to perform randomized controlled trialsTrusted Source in humans before potential vaccines and other treatments become
available. This may take several months or longer.
Here are some treatment options that are currently being investigated for protection against SARS-CoV-2 and treatment of COVID-19 symptoms.
Remdesivir
Remdesivir is an experimental broad-spectrum antiviral drug originally designed to target Ebola.
Researchers have found that remdesivir is highly effective at fighting the novel coronavirus in isolated cellsTrusted Source.
This treatment is not yet approved in humans, but two clinical trials for this drug have been implemented in China. One clinical trial was recently
also approved by the FDA in the United States.
Chloroquine
Chloroquine is a drug that’s used to fight malaria and autoimmune diseases. It’s been in use for more than 70 yearsTrusted Source and is
considered safe.
Researchers have discovered that this drug is effective at fighting the SARS-CoV-2 virus in studies done in test tubes.
At least 10 clinical trialsTrusted Source are currently looking at the potential use of chloroquine as an option for combating the novel coronavirus.
Lopinavir and ritonavir
Lopinavir and ritonavir are sold under the name Kaletra and are designed to treat HIV.
In South Korea, a 54-year-old man was given a combination of these two drugs and had a significant reductionTrusted Source in his levels of the
coronavirus.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there could be benefits to using Kaletra in combination with other drugs.
APN01
A clinical trial is set to start soon in China to examine the potential of a drug called APN01 to fight the novel coronavirus.
The scientists who first developed APN01 in the early 2000s discovered that a certain protein called ACE2 is involved in SARS infections. This protein
also helped protect the lungs from injury due to respiratory distress.
From recent research, it turns out that the 2019 coronavirus, like SARS, also uses the ACE2 protein to infect cells in humans.
The randomized, dual-arm trial will look at the effect of the medication on 24 patients for 1 week. Half of the participants in the trial will receive
the APN01 drug, and the other half will be given a placebo. If results are encouraging, larger clinical trials will be done.
Favilavir
China has approved the use of the antiviral drug favilavir to treat symptoms of COVID-19. The drug was initially developed to treat inflammation in
the nose and throat.
Although the results of the study haven’t been released yet, the drug has supposedly shown to be effective in treating COVID-19 symptoms in a
clinical trial of 70 people.
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Don't believe everything you think....
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thebajarunner
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Cloroquine- interesting notion
I have traveled a lot in malaria prone countries
Early on we always took this as a prophylactic
But some years back we were advised to refrain...
Seems that its main function was to mask symptoms which led to worse results when the disease manifested itself.
Not sure that I would want to try something that just hid the symptoms and delayed treatment for the real thing...
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BajaBlanca
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I watched a Mexican channel yesterday that showed very ill folks being turned away from hospitals, somewhere on the mainland. They were not happy,
not one little bit.
My Mom, who is in Brazil and in her 80's, was advised by her doc to get a pneumonia vaccine, which she did. Les says he got one last year and was
told it was good for his lifetime. I don't remember getting mine.
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