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Quote: Originally posted by bezzelle  | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Dear Budding E,
Believing in God is optional! Believing in Murphy is not! All things which can go wrong will go wrong, no matter how pure your intentions! That’s
Murphy’s place in the universe! If you were in any sort of Engineering, you’d already know that! |
I really hope you're not referencing 'Murphy's Law' which would be a very weak attempt to deflect. (?)
I was thinking Murphy was some biblical character maybe?
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Believing in God is seeing the glass half full. Believing in Murphy is seeing it half empty.
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Murphy's Triumvirate Axiom:
Everything takes longer than it should.
Nothing is as easy as it looks.
If anything can go wrong, it will: and at THE WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT.
Also of note for the scripture folks out there, god's name is "Andy Murphy".
Murphy because of Murphy's Axiom (see above)..... but also his first name "Andy" is from your church hymnal:
"Andy walks with me, Andy talks with me....." 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Only the Disasters resulting from ignoring Murphy’s Law are Biblical!
The Tacoma Narrows Bridge! Letting a bunch of Drunk Russians play with a nuclear reactor! Designing an aircraft flown by a “Committee” Having 60K
Homeless Drug Users camping on your sidewalks!
What you believe or refuse to believe has no effect on the bad outcome!
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“Rosy Scenario” has killed as many people as all of the wars in history! In fact “Rosy” caused most of them! Rosy is Murphy’s sister but
married into the Scenario Clan (Italian) right before the Romans sent three legions into the Teutoburg Forest guided by a German National! (How ever
did that turn out?) She also helped write the Von Schlieffen Plan and signed off on not requiring a 100 foot high dike around a bunch of Japanese
nuclear plants! ( how did that work out?) Recently she has been involved in a number of socialist Human Rights Causes!
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The DNC is going to run Biden no matter what, that said you can try and warn them. It won’t change a thing!
Rosy says Biden will remember where he is, what he’s running for and who he’s married to just fine. If not Stacey Abrams will be there to back him
up as the VP candidate! (What could possibly go wrong here?)
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The US slide into the the 3rd spot yesterday according to www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and in the last 15 hours have clocked 13,931 new cases. We ain't gonna be out done by a bunch of damn commi's,
we will have the bigliest numbers in the history of the world bar none!!
I found this Map for Mexico and it seems it's being kept pretty up to date and shows where cases have been found apparently.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1-XnTNpU7R4XiVe...
[Edited on 3-22-2020 by Bajazly]
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
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"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
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There are several interesting facts on the website you posted! The death rate is running about 1% in the US and about 10% in Italy! A large portion of
the new cases and deaths in the U.S. are confined to NY, NJ and WA! The other interesting fact is the daily number of deaths have decreased each of
the last two days! It’s too soon to draw a conclusion but if it continues it’s a good thing! Time will tell!
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Just to interrupt- When in Vietnam I took chloroquin every day. While I didn't have bad reactions a few hours after taking it I could count on having
an upset stomach. But, I figured that was better than malaria. When I was wounded i spent a week in the hospital there stabilizing and then was sent
to Japan where I spent another week in the hospital before returning to the states. In Japan I was in a huge ward with other injured officers. it was
amusing as the guy on one side had been hurt in a jeep accident, across from me was a guy who had broken his leg jumping from a helicopter into tall
grass that was a lot taller than he expected. And next to me was a guy who was allergic to choloroquin and his liver had reacted badly causing is bile
to turn black and he was bright orange from liver complications. i don't know what happened to him but it's clear the drug can be dangerous to some. I
make no assumptions about it's efficacy but without monitoring I wouldn't take it now. i would listen to the health experts not someone with no
medical training.
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The current recommendation for areas where the type of malaria is not resistant to Chloroquine is one (1) 300mg equivalent taken on the same day each
week! If you were told to “take it every day” That could be the reason that some people reacted badly to it! An upset stomach is a common side
effect if you don’t take it after eating.
I dealt with and worked in both Military and VA medical facilities back in the early ‘70s there were some very good people working there, but I
wasn’t impressed by the management running either system!
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Sorry to disillusion you! Clinical Medicine is still very much an art not a science! It is still taught by practicing on the patients under the
guidance of those with more experience! That’s called a “Preceptorship”!
If it was a “science” everyone would be cured! Please note that is far from the case!
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | | There are several interesting facts on the website you posted! The death rate is running about 1% in the US and about 10% in Italy! A large portion of
the new cases and deaths in the U.S. are confined to NY, NJ and WA! The other interesting fact is the daily number of deaths have decreased each of
the last two days! It’s too soon to draw a conclusion but if it continues it’s a good thing! Time will tell! |
What are you talking about? The number of deaths per day in the US isnt decreasing. It's increasing.
And that 1% is insignificant, with where the US is, chronologically, in terms of infection. We are at the beginning of the infection. We weren't
testing. We were late on restricting movement.
Now that thousands per day are being diagnosed with it (4500 yesterday, almost 15,000 today!)and since it can take people weeks to completely recover,
the death rate % is forced artificially downward.
What to look at is the percentage of "closed cases". Closed cases are people who either recovered from it.......or died from it. 70% of the closed
cases are deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
These are the things that are scary.
-That 70%.
-Continued inadequate testing, NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY ARE INFECTED
-Inadequate supply of respirators, oxy tents, hospital beds
I heard an interview with a higher up in FEMA today. HE ABSOLUTELY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY TEST KITS THERE ARE, HOW MANY RESPIRATORS THERE ARE, HOW
MANY HOSPITAL BEDS THERE ARE. Flatly refused to say. All he did was spout lines about how we all need to pull together. Jeez, tell us something we
don't already know.
FEMA is ALL ABOUT STATISTICS, NORMALLY!! But not now, when the inadequacies are just too terrible to reveal.
What is significant is the percentage of
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Interns can often be identified on their first day at rounds without reading their name tags! Usually they are the ones who “hear the hooves of
Zebras rather than horses”!
This can occasionally be a good thing if you do have a rare disease! If not your results may very! As an “Old Person” personally I prefer the
Clinic at a teaching hospital to a FP practice or Private Clinic.
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Well my tour in Vietnam was 50 years ago and like most soldiers we took the medication that was prescribed in the doses prescribed. I had no idea of
the dosage, but because we were in an area with several strains of malaria we were prescribed both chloroquine and primaquine. I remember the
chloroquine particularly as that was the one that caused me nausea. The dosage was daily. Some unit leaders had the medics oversee the taking of the
meds, but I thought if they were old enough to go to war, carry weapons, and take lots of risks we all took, they could decide themselves about the
meds. Some had worse reactions to the drugs than I did. And looking at the side effects I wonder if those guys who always thought somebody was
watching them wasn't caused by the meds.
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If you are paranoid there are only two possibilities! One of them is that you are right! Meds do induce paranoia, but then so does incoming! You
probably had an excess of both! A lot of people think if some is good some more is better! Bad choice for Meds!
Personally, I grew up with a couple of WW2 1st Marine Scout and Recon guys! All of you leave me in a awe!
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| Quote: Originally posted by capitolkat | | Well my tour in Vietnam was 50 years ago and like most soldiers we took the medication that was prescribed in the doses prescribed. I had no idea of
the dosage, but because we were in an area with several strains of malaria we were prescribed both chloroquine and primaquine. I remember the
chloroquine particularly as that was the one that caused me nausea. The dosage was daily. Some unit leaders had the medics oversee the taking of the
meds, but I thought if they were old enough to go to war, carry weapons, and take lots of risks we all took, they could decide themselves about the
meds. Some had worse reactions to the drugs than I did. And looking at the side effects I wonder if those guys who always thought somebody was
watching them wasn't caused by the meds. |
oh the memories........
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No, it’s a sign of enlightenment when you realize that allowing the engineers access to the pharmacy is a bad career move!
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For a number of years I was a Life Support Systems Engineer! Set up, Trained the staff to use, Operated and maintained complex monitoring and life
support systems. (Including Ventilators as a timely topic!)
If you don’t understand “Zebras” you’re not in the Industry! Ask your M.D. about “Zebra Hooves when you should be hearing those of
horses”! It just proves you weren’t in clinical medicine!
No Pills I’ve dealt with far too many drug O.D.s on ventilators to be one!
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Hook,
I've looked at the link and the numbers don't make sense to me.
98% of the Active cases are mild.
70% of the Closed cases are deaths.
That means that most of the mild cases result in death? That makes no sense. What am I missing here in these stats?
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New York State is leading the pack. You have to believe that most of this is mostly due to New York City, a microbe's dream for infections. So much
for Woody Allen's elegies for this grand pulsating metropolis.
You have to wonder if this pandemic will change how people choose to live. It could change our value system.
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The fact that NYC will admit to around 70K Homeless living there in the streets and subways probably has something to do with the number of cases. As
do subways generally!
Historically cities suffer from plagues! Emptying chamber pots out the window into the street as one reason! Public Sanitation changed that for a
time. However allowing people to live on the streets while using them as a chamber pot brought that back!
It’s worth noting that Seattle, NYC and LA all have huge populations of Drug Users living on the sidewalks! They also account for a big chunk of the
cases and deaths!
Most Baja People have made a choice! I have!
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