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chippy
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Lots more now! Scroll down the maps and you can see state and then municipio numbers.
https://mexico.as.com/mexico/2020/05/08/tikitakas/1588940868...
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gnukid
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Last Monday, May 4th 2020 more than 1000 restaurants reopened in BCS, for curbside service. Hotels and Tourism can begin reservations on May 16h,
Flights are flying e very day now and will return to normal volume June 1st.
There is no evidence of anything different from a normal flu season, with mild symptoms. No evidence has been proved to support isolation as a
beneficial policy to mitigate impact of infection, while, it is demonstrated to harm "shield immunity" that benefits not yet infected people through
contact with those who recovered from infection.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0895-3 Modeling shield immunity to reduce COVID-19 epidemic spread
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gnukid
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http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-antibod... Most have been infected with no symptoms and are immune.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.30.20085613v...
"Here we show that the vast majority of confirmed COVID19 patients seroconvert, potentially providing immunity to reinfection."
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/03/coronavirus-skepticism-the... Medical experts skeptical of draconian isolation as health policy.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/major-plans-to-re-open-u-s... Surgeon General Adams Rejects Dr. Fausto Apocalyptic Predictive Modeling, Prefers
Actual Data to Drive Health Policy
Remarkable Dr. Faushi
https://journal-neo.org/2020/04/15/the-remarkable-doctor-a-f...
Faushi gave Wuhan Lab 3.7 million to "study" Corona Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wkMmMlacY&
Timeline of preplanning pandemic response to reject successful medicine "suspicious"
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dr-anthony-fauci-plotted-globa...
Study: Success with Hyrdochloroquine
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/hydroxychloroquine...
Tyrannical Policing has sub-theme of unlawful racial discrimination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CmJCa4qcY
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/nyregion/nypd-social-dist...
No scientific evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in healthy or asymptomatic individuals. On the contrary, experts warn that such masks
interfere with normal breathing and may become “germ carriers”. Leading doctors called them a “media hype” and “ridiculous”.
https://www.aerztezeitung.de/Politik/Montgomery-haelt-Masken...
https://infekt.ch/2020/04/atemschutzmasken-fuer-alle-medienh...
https://de.sputniknews.com/interviews/20200425326953541-coro...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-tho...
https://www.vienna.at/analyse-zeigt-covid-19-opferkurve-ents...
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gnukid
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Antibody study with Danish blood donors showed a very low Covid19 lethality (IFR) of 0.08% for persons under 70 years of age.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075291v...
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gnukid
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Prof Michael Levitt: Isolation Is Huge Mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-sZdfLcEk
Italian Parliament Leader Slams Falsified COVID-19 Numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wuFazgpc4
Funeral Directors Doubt Legitimacy Of COVID19 Deaths Attributed To Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5f_6ltv7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQWRCECbN-Y Fake Testing, Fake Patients, Fake News
President of Tanzania highlights fraud in testing for COVID19 with randomized samples of non-human material sent to lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfSqMult6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfSqMult6c
[Edited on 5-8-2020 by gnukid]
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bajabuddha
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.....and the pseudo-pontiffs pontificate...... 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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Feathers
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  | Last Monday, May 4th 2020 more than 1000 restaurants reopened in BCS, for curbside service. Hotels and Tourism can begin reservations on May 16h,
Flights are flying e very day now and will return to normal volume June 1st.
There is no evidence of anything different from a normal flu season, with mild symptoms. No evidence has been proved to support isolation as a
beneficial policy to mitigate impact of infection, while, it is demonstrated to harm "shield immunity" that benefits not yet infected people through
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Good news.
Took my dogs on their daily run today. Noticed an elderlyish man, sitting on his porch (all by himself) wearing a mask.
Sad.
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Barry A.
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Aircraft air:
https://www.askthepilot.com/questionanswers/cabin-air-qualit...
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
you are right, the air is worse on airplanes! Airplanes are usually more crowded, and your duration in airplane is typically longer than a subway or
commuter train ride.
the budget airlines minimize air exchanges and air filter cleaning, because they are budget airlines trying to pinch a penny until it screams. 22
inch seat pitch and sitting next to fat sweaty people all wheezing, hacking and sneezing, packed like sardines,...
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Don't play dumb. They will spread ppl out at first.
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David K
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Nice link Barry... here is just one paragraph for those who don't click onto links:
Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are
described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that
between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more
frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.
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JZ
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Do you know how much hospitals get from the federal government for every person who gets put on a ventilator and declared a Covid patient? North of
$30K.
The numbers are being so jacked up of Covid deaths it's incredible. I've read dozens of first hand stories from medical personnel saying this.
But you and Motged stay in your houses and milk off the teet of the govt.
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gnukid
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Shelter in Place with Shane Smith & Edward Snowden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5OAjnveyJo
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Skipjack Joe
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Regardless of the studies about the effectiveness of their filtration systems other studies have shown that if you're sitting 3 seats in front of
anyone with a cold you're virtually guaranteed to get it. The odds drop for the following 3 seats but is still there. One of the positives coming from
this pandemic is that the airlines are finally going to do something about it. Recent work shows that UV light applied at low levels directly in the
cabin kills pathogens without affecting health. Can't remember the link. The airlines are really motivated now because their pocketbooks are at stake.
Either change or go out of business. There is even a vitamin C booster called Airborne for goodness sakes. There is no place for them to hide any
longer.
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Skipjack Joe
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The only thing that's fake is your ability to find truthful information.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
you are right, the air is worse on airplanes! Airplanes are usually more crowded, and your duration in airplane is typically longer than a subway or
commuter train ride.
the budget airlines minimize air exchanges and air filter cleaning, because they are budget airlines trying to pinch a penny until it screams. 22
inch seat pitch and sitting next to fat sweaty people all wheezing, hacking and sneezing, packed like sardines,...
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Don't play dumb. They will spread ppl out at first.
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They cut back number of flights. They won’t add flights until the existing ones are selling out. When biz returns, sw will sell out all middle
seats... Sitting shoulder to shoulder with contagious strangers, and contagious strangers just inches in front and behind you, you get their germs,
even if the air is circulated and filtered....
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe |
Regardless of the studies about the effectiveness of their filtration systems other studies have shown that if you're sitting 3 seats in front of
anyone with a cold you're virtually guaranteed to get it. The odds drop for the following 3 seats but is still there. One of the positives coming from
this pandemic is that the airlines are finally going to do something about it. Recent work shows that UV light applied at low levels directly in the
cabin kills pathogens without affecting health. Can't remember the link. The airlines are really motivated now because their pocketbooks are at stake.
Either change or go out of business. There is even a vitamin C booster called Airborne for goodness sakes. There is no place for them to hide any
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They will continue to decrease the seat dimensions and seat spacing, despite 90% of gringos being obese. 7 out of 10 flights i am on I am disgusted
by the humans seated next to me, obesity spilling over the edges of their seats into my space.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Feathers
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Seriously???
You think this is 'Fake news', Skipjack Joe?
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gnukid
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The medical staff explain in their own words that they were required to pretend to be patients seeking a test for COVID19 for TV, while they were not
actually tested. They did it for TV. They were irritated, there faking being patients, faking taking tests, for far news, admitted for promotion, it
it not uncommon, it is called staging, but it's not news and not real. It was faked. Why is this upsetting to you? Because you like fake patients
pretending to be tested and you want to see more? Because it upsets you world view and faith in main stream news, because it triggers cognitive
dissonance? You are pretending to mad at me, FAKE, because you are embarassed you were lied to?
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/los-cabos-recibira-su-primer-vuel...
Southwest begins international flights to Cabo today, Alaska begins June 1st.
[Edited on 5-9-2020 by gnukid]
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Skipjack Joe
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It's questionable at best and probably doubtful.
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/did-cbs-news-stage-a-fake-testing
So yes, this expose is probably fake. And even as a fake job it's so poorly done. I don't know about you but I'm getting tired of all these 60 minutes
wannabes that are exposing information of even questionable worth. Is this even newsworthy? My take is that someone has an axe to grind with CBS. Why?
I have no idea. And frankly I'm not that curious about it.
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gnukid
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A few recent academic abstracts, studies, actual data, not predictive models as Faushi has relied on, real government data sources, real video capture
on the ground. No claims of personal expertise, no argument for or against partisan politics, no politics of any sort, or anything other than provide
sourced reliable data with references so that others may be aware of the landscape of data today and make up their own mind. Skippy's antagonistic
behavior clearly belies the intention, which is to mislead.
I am in Baja in the brecha, and took just a brief moment off from enjoying the cows. goats, and doves, to quickly look around and share sources, for
discussion. I trust the Nomad people here are able to make up their mind, from the largely positive new sources referenced. Back to the brecha...
References
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0895-3 Modeling shield immunity to reduce COVID-19 epidemic spread
Prof Michael Levitt: Isolation Is Huge Mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-sZdfLcEk
Italian Parliament Leader Slams Falsified COVID-19 Numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wuFazgpc4
Funeral Directors Doubt Legitimacy Of COVID19 Deaths Attributed To Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5f_6ltv7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQWRCECbN-Y Fake Testing, Fake Patients, Fake News
President of Tanzania highlights fraud in testing for COVID19 with randomized samples of non-human material sent to lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfSqMult6c
http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-antibod... Most have been infected with no symptoms and are immune.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.30.20085613v...
"Here we show that the vast majority of confirmed COVID19 patients seroconvert, potentially providing immunity to reinfection."
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/03/coronavirus-skepticism-the... Medical experts skeptical of draconian isolation as health policy.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/major-plans-to-re-open-u-s... Surgeon General Adams Rejects Dr. Fausto Apocalyptic Predictive Modeling, Prefers
Actual Data to Drive Health Policy
Remarkable Dr. Faushi
https://journal-neo.org/2020/04/15/the-remarkable-doctor-a-f...
Faushi gave Wuhan Lab 3.7 million to "study" Corona Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wkMmMlacY&
Timeline of preplanning pandemic response to reject successful medicine "suspicious"
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dr-anthony-fauci-plotted-globa...
Study: Success with Hyrdochloroquine
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/hydroxychloroquine...
Tyrannical Policing has sub-theme of unlawful racial discrimination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CmJCa4qcY
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/nyregion/nypd-social-dist...
No scientific evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in healthy or asymptomatic individuals. On the contrary, experts warn that such masks
interfere with normal breathing and may become “germ carriers”. Leading doctors called them a “media hype” and “ridiculous”.
https://www.aerztezeitung.de/Politik/Montgomery-haelt-Masken...
https://infekt.ch/2020/04/atemschutzmasken-fuer-alle-medienh...
https://de.sputniknews.com/interviews/20200425326953541-coro...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-tho...
https://www.vienna.at/analyse-zeigt-covid-19-opferkurve-ents...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/cdc-coronavirus-la... Sloppy laboratory practices at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
caused contamination that rendered the nation’s first coronavirus tests ineffective, federal officials confirmed on Saturday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/…/07/us/politics/trump-cdc.ht... CDC Rejected by Whitehouse
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/08/predictive-models-rar... “The great obstacle to progress is not ignorance, but the illusion of
knowledge.” COVID19 predictive modeling dominated our lives and caused significant harm based largely on inaccurate modeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5OAjnveyJo
Shelter in place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdIlkjA3mY Faushi Failed to Respond to FOIA Requests for Records
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