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SFandH
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Will Mex let us in during a possible 2nd wave?
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David K
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As we have seen... what happened in New York and other urban jungles with subways, is not an indication of anything that happened or will happen in
the rest of America.
Comparing health events from 100 years ago to today is like riding a horse-drawn wagon across the country compared to flying on a jet.
Nothing predicted came to pass... hospitals did not max-out (the original reason for the stay-home orders and small-business shutdowns).
As for a second wave... maybe, but there are plexiglass shields, mask wearing, hand washing, sanitizing routines in place now. Then we just heard
today that a possible Covid shot will be available to 300,000,000 Americans in October. Operation Warp Speed is showing the world, once again,
American greatness at coming together to solve a major problem.
How about some positive support of all that has been done to fight this horrible thing?
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  |
Then we just heard today that a possible Covid shot will be available to 300,000,000 Americans in October.
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Can you provide a link to that?
What is a "Covid shot"? Vaccine? Cure?
Thanks
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High Hopes ?
THEY SAY ?
Yeah, sure, you betcha. We'll see.
So Far, Operation Warp Speed has generated a lot of Happy Talk. Time will tell whether it produces anything else.
Keep on dreaming, though. Maybe, that Miracle will show.
Give the reopening its incubation time and see where the numbers go.
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Nothing for sure. It's still at the "maybe" stage.
Developed at Oxford University, which bodes well IMO.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-oxfo...
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“Will Mex let us in during the 2nd wave?”
“Give the reopening its incubation time and see where the numbers go”
I can’t say that there won’t be a “dreaded 2nd wave”. The “whether” will depend on the changes in the virus and the progress in dealing
with it. I can point to places that never “hid in place” and others that have been reopened for weeks. The countries that still give everyone
multiple doses of the French version of the BCG T.B. Vaccine never had a serious problem with the Wuhan Virus in the 1st place. South Dakota never
locked down and had a lower incident of cases than most states that did lock down.
What you can say is that in the face of vastly increased testing the daily number of new cases is still decreasing. The other thing you can say is
those who Loath the President are painting the darkest picture of what’s going on and what in their opinion will be the disasters going forward!
Draw your own conclusions!
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South Dakota A-OK ?
U.S. News & World Report May 09, 2020
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — The increase in COVID-19 cases in South Dakota continued to reflect results from a mass testing event in the Sioux Falls
area, with nearly 250 positive cases reported Saturday by health officials.
The report showed that 232 of the 249 new cases were in Minnehaha County. State Department of Health officials spent the last several days sorting out
results from testing employees at the Smithfield pork processing plant in Sioux Falls, along with their family members.
A total of 435 people have tested positive in Minnehaha County in the last two days, for a total of 2.767 cases in the county.
The total number of cases statewide now stands at 3,393. Three new deaths were confirmed on Saturday, all of them Minnehaha County residents over the
age of 70. The state's death toll is up to 34.
Officials said 79 people are hospitalized with the virus.
For most people, the coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough that clear up in two to three weeks. For some, especially
older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia.
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BTW-Malapropism Check: The word is loathe rather than loath.
De Nada.
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JZ
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Stay home buddy. Read your history books and hide under your toilet paper.
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Bill,
Today in S.D.
Cases: 4085 Deaths: 46
May 9
Cases: 3393 Deaths: 34
Not much of a “wave” and no lockdown! A majority of the cases are in meat packing Plants!
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MrBillM
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Carrying COVID in Carcass Carving Concerns
Wherever they are, the dramatic spread of the virus in meat-packing plants DOES emphasize the hazardous effect of close association.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | Wherever they are, the dramatic spread of the virus in meat-packing plants DOES emphasize the hazardous effect of close association.
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The sooner everyone gets it, the better. Speaking of the healthy, and under 60ish.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
The sooner everyone gets it, the better. Speaking of the healthy, and under 60ish.
[Edited on 5-22-2020 by JZ] |
Are you saying 100s of millions of people getting sick in the US, billions worldwide, is a good thing?
Do you really think so?
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
The sooner everyone gets it, the better. Speaking of the healthy, and under 60ish.
[Edited on 5-22-2020 by JZ] |
Are you saying 100s of millions of people getting sick in the US, billions worldwide, is a good thing?
Do you really think so?
[Edited on 5-22-2020 by SFandH] |
Hide under your TP.
100 million getting it in the US, yes. A very small fraction will get sick. Those at risk need to stay home.
Think about the lives of your kids and grand kids, and less about you.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
The sooner everyone gets it, the better. Speaking of the healthy, and under 60ish.
[Edited on 5-22-2020 by JZ] |
Are you saying 100s of millions of people getting sick in the US, billions worldwide, is a good thing?
Do you really think so?
[Edited on 5-22-2020 by SFandH] |
Hide under your TP.
100 million getting it in the US, yes. A very small fraction will get sick. Those at risk need to stay home.
Think about the lives of your kids and grand kids, and less about you.
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A very small fraction will get sick?
Table 1 in the link below shows 41.4 million adult Americans (21.2%) under the age of 65 are at risk of developing serious illness
(needing special treatment) if infected. 92.5 million of all Americans over 18. (37.6%). Many, many more will get sick, just not seriously sick.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/how-man...
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https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-duri...
SUICIDES ON THE RISE AMID STAY-AT-HOME ORDER, BAY AREA MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS SAY
“Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the
COVID-19 virus.
The head of the trauma in the department believes mental health is suffering so much, it is time to end the shelter-in-place order.
"We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said. "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four
weeks."
“What I have seen recently, I have never seen before," Hansen said. "I have never seen so much intentional injury."
"I think people have found themselves disconnected from the normal supportive networks that they have, churches and schools and book clubs, you name
it," Tamura said.
Hansen says a focus on mental health is very important right "They intend to die," Hansen said. "Sometimes, people will make what we call a 'gesture'.
It's a cry for help. We're just seeing something a little different than that right now. It's upsetting."
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Hide under your toilet paper SFandH. Anyone saying stay at home has a govt. job, is part of the media, and / or is on a fixed govt. income and just
doesn't want it to impact them.
Very selfish. Ppl who don't care about their kids or the future of America. They make me sick. I'd much rather die than screw my kids over.
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Slick,
What is with your toilet paper thing? A bit of an obsessive reply isn't it ?
Your fantasy getaway doesn't seemed to have mellowed you out at all....needing more attention after dog pics?
I really wonder what sources of information you rely on....or is this just who you are?
Selfish for wanting to reduce and manage infection risks?
Your dog whistle call for "return to normal" seems to be a chant for those selfishly not being capable of considering the "greater good" notion.
But, hey, you are a bigshot .... and can read.....what are the stats for increasing infections in "reopening" hotspots in the states?
Your dog has better common sense than you.
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-duri...
SUICIDES ON THE RISE AMID STAY-AT-HOME ORDER, BAY AREA MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS SAY
“Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the
COVID-19 virus.
The head of the trauma in the department believes mental health is suffering so much, it is time to end the shelter-in-place order.
"We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said. "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four
weeks."
“What I have seen recently, I have never seen before," Hansen said. "I have never seen so much intentional injury."
"I think people have found themselves disconnected from the normal supportive networks that they have, churches and schools and book clubs, you name
it," Tamura said.
Hansen says a focus on mental health is very important right "They intend to die," Hansen said. "Sometimes, people will make what we call a 'gesture'.
It's a cry for help. We're just seeing something a little different than that right now. It's upsetting." |
Suicide is a choice.
Dieing from covid-19 is not something people choose (except for suicidal door know lickers).
Society/govt has chosen to protect people from covid-19,... society/govt can choose to protect people from suicidal thoughts by increasing the social
safety net,... but the GOP doesn’t care to do that
A few suicides may have to be the collateral damage of protecting many, many lives from covid-19...
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Also, as data indicate, the majority of people that get infected are either asymptomatic or perhaps just a bit sick. This is especially worrisome
because these infected people will continue going to work or wherever as businesses and recreational areas open up.
An infected person, sick or not, is a host and is infectious for some period of time. Perhaps an allergy causes them to sneeze, spraying the virus.
Perhaps they get a mild case of influenza or a common cold and cough. Who knows? They may inadvertently infect someone that will get seriously sick,
or worse.
The danger is in infected people who don't know they are infected and are out in public.
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TSA screenings over 300K for the first time since March. Can't wait to get on a plane again.
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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You keep threatening to do this, quit whining about it and just do it. I'm sure you have plenty of frequent flyer miles to take more than a few trips
around the country.
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
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