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[*] posted on 5-31-2020 at 06:55 AM


Three studies find that hydroxychloroquine reduces chances of contracting Covid

New Delhi: The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), the country’s apex body in the field, has found that consuming the drug hydroxychloroquine reduces the chances of getting infected with Covid-19.

As a result, ICMR released an advisory Friday to expand the usage of HCQ — an anti-malarial drug — as a preventive treatment against the novel coronavirus.

The conclusion has been drawn on the basis of three studies conducted by the ICMR.

The advisory suggests surveillance workers, paramilitary and police personnel, as well as medical staff working in non-Covid hospitals and blocks to start consuming the pill as “preventive therapy”.

https://theprint.in/health/hcq-breakthrough-icmr-finds-its-e...

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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 07:00 AM
UPDATE......Retraction!


Here is today's update of the article that started this post; https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200522113712.h...

Here is a Wall Street Journal link; https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/authors-retract-studies-th...

[Edited on 6-5-2020 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 07:08 AM


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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 07:48 AM


You might wonder if there is a hidden reason why a cheap generic drug that only costs a few cents gets such bad press. Ideas anyone?
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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 07:55 AM


No conspiracy..... just the facts . :light:



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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 08:19 AM


June 1st - National Center for Biotechnology Information, a branch of the National Institutes of Health:

"Oral hydroxychloroquine was authorized for emergency use by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on March 28, 2020, to treat adult and adolescent patients who weigh 50 kg or more hospitalized with COVID‐19 for whom a clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible (https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download). It was not approved for SARS‐CoV‐2 prevention. There are no scientifically established doses for SARS‐CoV‐2. Although pharmacometric modeling and simulation has been used by several groups to propose potential regimens, 3 , 4 , 5 these are targeted for hospitalized patients with advanced disease and no models have specifically evaluated regimens in the context of prophylaxis."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7267462/





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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 08:31 AM


And, from The Lancet:

"The Indian Council of Medical Research, under the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, has recommended chemoprophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine (400 mg twice on day 1, then 400 mg once a week thereafter) for asymptomatic health-care workers treating patients with suspected or confirmed COVID-19, and for asymptomatic household contacts of confirmed cases.2 The document states “its use in prophylaxis is derived from available evidence of benefit as treatment and supported by preclinical data”. Although some in-vitro evidence supports the antiviral activity of hydroxychloroquine and its precursor chloroquine, there is no peer-reviewed publication that evaluates either drug for exposure prophylaxis of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Even for treatment of diagnosed cases, only one small study reported faster nasopharyngeal viral clearance, with no data for clinical improvement.3 This evidence, or the lack thereof, hardly justifies state-endorsed, widespread use of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...






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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 08:25 AM


LANCET STUDY RETRACTION

The authors of the Lancet paper, 'Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: , have retracted their study.

They were unable to complete an independent audit of the data underpinning their analysis. As a result, they have concluded that they 'can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources.'

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200522113712.h...

The retraction happened a couple days ago and has not been widely reported.

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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 08:39 AM


SunDevil, there are two issues.

1. Does hydroxy prevent COVID-19

2. Does hydroxy provide an effective treatment for patients with COVID-19.

The Lancet retraction had to do with a study for the second issue. They retracted the study not because of their conclusion that it is not an effective treatment was wrong but because they could not authenticate the veracity of the data they based their conclusion upon.

In fact, what it is beginning to look like is that hydroxy is useful as a treatment but its efficacy as a preventative is still undecided.

The FDA has approved it for treatment but not for prevention....yet.





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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 09:42 AM


We should all try and keep an open mind, especially about things we are not familiar with.

Insults and vulgar language in someone's posts is a sign that they are the kind of person that Jeff Foxworthy jokes about.

Anyone wanting to learn more about the controversy around the retracted Lancet study can do their own research. Search online for something like 'why was lancet covid study retracted' and you might stumble across the Guardian article below. The Guardian is a UK publication with a left-of-center perspective and they have no love for anything Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lance...

Nobody reputable has claimed the drug in question is a vaccine.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2020 at 03:46 PM


Looks like hydroxychloroquine will be on sale, red hat wearing believers should stock up.

"The US now has 66 million surplus anti-malaria pills after the FDA revoked an emergency waiver allowing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine"

https://www.businessinsider.com/hydroxychloroquine-us-surplu...

The US now has 66 million excess anti-malaria pills after the FDA U-turned on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.

The FDA said the drugs were likely ineffective in treating COVID-19, and could be dangerous. It previously allowed the drugs to be used in hospitalized coronavirus patients.

The government has sent out 31 million hydroxychloroquine tablets to state agencies, The New York Times reported, and now has 63 million left over, alongside 3 million chloroquine pills.

Officials are now trying to figure out what to do with the excess drugs, and are working to "determine to available options," the Department of Health and Human Services said.

Dr. Rick Bright, the former head of the US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), said they "should be destroyed."
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[*] posted on 6-17-2020 at 05:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNaranja  
Looks like hydroxychloroquine will be on sale, red hat wearing believers should stock up.

"The US now has 66 million surplus anti-malaria pills after the FDA revoked an emergency waiver allowing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine"

https://www.businessinsider.com/hydroxychloroquine-us-surplu...

The US now has 66 million excess anti-malaria pills after the FDA U-turned on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.

The FDA said the drugs were likely ineffective in treating COVID-19, and could be dangerous. It previously allowed the drugs to be used in hospitalized coronavirus patients.

The government has sent out 31 million hydroxychloroquine tablets to state agencies, The New York Times reported, and now has 63 million left over, alongside 3 million chloroquine pills.

Officials are now trying to figure out what to do with the excess drugs, and are working to "determine to available options," the Department of Health and Human Services said.

Dr. Rick Bright, the former head of the US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), said they "should be destroyed."


those malaria pills will be useful, after global warming introduces all the tropical mosquitoes into usa




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[*] posted on 6-17-2020 at 05:10 PM



Quote: Originally posted by BajaNaranja  
"The US now has 66 million surplus anti-malaria pills after the FDA revoked an emergency waiver allowing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine"


Dr. Rick Bright, the former head of the US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), said they "should be destroyed."


Hey!! Dr. Rick, consider this.

Malaria occurs in more than 100 countries and territories. About half of the world's population is at risk. Large areas of Africa and South Asia and parts of Central and South America, the Caribbean, Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and Oceania are considered areas where malaria transmission occurs.

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/faqs.html



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