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[*] posted on 6-3-2020 at 09:11 PM


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[*] posted on 6-3-2020 at 09:34 PM


Too bad. You may have profited.
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[*] posted on 6-4-2020 at 04:33 AM


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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 02:10 PM


one must be careful repeating what one hears...yesterday a friend from Vizcaino who knows Susie said she is off to Mexico city to deal with this issue....and that she said it wasnt so??? Who do we believe?

Many think the government is spreading rumours about the numbers and who is sick and what people die from etc....pretty hard to know what is true unless you hear it from the camels mouth...rumours abound.

People that were reported dying of covid....their family members are on social media saying they died of something else but it just gets added to the covid count.




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[*] posted on 6-5-2020 at 03:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by shari  
one must be careful repeating what one hears...yesterday a friend from Vizcaino who knows Susie said she is off to Mexico city to deal with this issue....and that she said it wasnt so??? Who do we believe?



I would be interested in what the doctors living in the area have to say.


[Edited on 6-5-2020 by SFandH]




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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 06:52 AM


I think we are all going to see whether or not we should continue to socially distance ourselves in 4-14 days. The world wide protests will provide the answer. Did all of these large gatherings spread the virus to new epidemic levels with hospitals overrun, or have thousands of cases gone undetected and were asymptomatic and herd immunity has been attained? Who knows the answer. But as far as Baja is concerned, the spread of coronavirus is in it's infancy and will continue to spread and kill the vulnerable.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 06:52 AM


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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 08:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by shari  
one must be careful repeating what one hears...yesterday a friend from Vizcaino who knows Susie said she is off to Mexico city to deal with this issue....and that she said it wasnt so??? Who do we believe?



I would be interested in what the doctors living in the area have to say.


To expand upon this a bit. IMO, what you need to look for is the number of people who are getting pneumonia, which is what COVID-19 causes in severe cases. I've read that many illnesses/deaths in Mexico are being classified as pneumonia and are not being counted as COVID-19.

The breakout in China was first recognized by doctors who were treating an abnormally high number of patients with viral pneumonia. They knew something was amiss before anybody else

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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 12:10 PM


I don't think we will truly know the impact of covid-19 until it passes into history. Until the W.H.O. can compare mortality data of previous years with mortality during the covid-19 pandemic. The excess death count will be the most accurate estimate. Right now we really have no idea since there is such a non-uniform method of deciding whether or not covid-19 was the cause of death.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 12:28 PM


US hospitals get substantially more from Medicare for Covid-19 treatments.

For sure the US rates are being inflated.



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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 01:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
US hospitals get substantially more from Medicad for Covid-19 care.

For sure the US rates are being inflated.


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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 01:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
US hospitals get substantially more from Medicad for Covid-19 care.

For sure the US rates are being inflated.


Our local hospital got clobbered financially by the Covid quarantine! All routine non-emergency treatment was cancelled, and even the emergency room traffic was off 40% from normal activity.

Less than a dozen cases were treated in the empty hospital, and none in the last five weeks! They have resumed non-urgent care again, but have not gotten to the level to justify bringing back many laid off staff.




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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 01:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I don't think we will truly know the impact of covid-19 until it passes into history. Until the W.H.O. can compare mortality data of previous years with mortality during the covid-19 pandemic. The excess death count will be the most accurate estimate. Right now we really have no idea since there is such a non-uniform method of deciding whether or not covid-19 was the cause of death.


I'm with BajaMaMa on this one.

People who pretend they know anything about this are just kidding themselves. Even top notch epidemiologists disagree. Let's let the experts sort it out - gather some long-term data - then the wisecrackers on the street can tell us "what they think". A year or two from now we may have a pretty good idea of what we did right and what we did wrong. Anything between now and then is naive posturing.

Meanwhile, keep your head down - just in case.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 02:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I don't think we will truly know the impact of covid-19 until it passes into history. Until the W.H.O. can compare mortality data of previous years with mortality during the covid-19 pandemic.


Ah, you're curious about the impact. And WHO will have data to compare. Right.

WHO won't have data from Mexico because no data is being collected. Impact in Mexico? Time will tell.




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[*] posted on 6-6-2020 at 09:33 PM


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Our local hospital got clobbered financially by the Covid quarantine! All routine non-emergency treatment was cancelled, and even the emergency room traffic was off 40% from normal activity.

Less than a dozen cases were treated in the empty hospital, and none in the last five weeks! They have resumed non-urgent care again, but have not gotten to the level to justify bringing back many laid off staff.


That is true 100%. And to compensate from the lost of normal revenue, many, many hospitals have over stated the Covid-19 numbers to get more $'s from CARES and Medicare.

This whole thing was the biggest BS, over hype, in US history. Shut down should have been for a month in most places (longer in a few) to allow medical personnel to get ready.

The impact of the closure is way worse than the got damn virus.

My biz is fine. We got a bunch of money from the SBA PPP loan act. It is a 100% forgivable loan. Business has been fine.

I'm thinking about so many other ppl out there. And the long term impact.






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[*] posted on 6-7-2020 at 04:45 AM


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My biz is fine. We got a bunch of money from the SBA PPP loan act. It is a 100% forgivable loan. Business has been fine.


So, your business is now sucking off the government teat? Aren't you the cornhole that criticizes other members for receiving government checks?

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Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I don't think we will truly know the impact of covid-19 until it passes into history. Until the W.H.O. can compare mortality data of previous years with mortality during the covid-19 pandemic.


Ah, you're curious about the impact. And WHO will have data to compare. Right.

WHO won't have data from Mexico because no data is being collected. Impact in Mexico? Time will tell.


I was discussing simple data regarding number of deaths only. Nothing covid-19 related. This is a number that is consistently recorded. Perhaps not perfectly in 3rd world countries, but collected none the less. The number of excess deaths will tell of the impact of covid-19. And even that will only be an estimate. It is how they determined number of deaths in past epidemics.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2020 at 07:30 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  


Our local hospital got clobbered financially by the Covid quarantine! All routine non-emergency treatment was cancelled, and even the emergency room traffic was off 40% from normal activity.

Less than a dozen cases were treated in the empty hospital, and none in the last five weeks! They have resumed non-urgent care again, but have not gotten to the level to justify bringing back many laid off staff.


That is true 100%. And to compensate from the lost of normal revenue, many, many hospitals have over stated the Covid-19 numbers to get more $'s from CARES and Medicare.

This whole thing was the biggest BS, over hype, in US history. Shut down should have been for a month in most places (longer in a few) to allow medical personnel to get ready.

The impact of the closure is way worse than the got damn virus.

My biz is fine. We got a bunch of money from the SBA PPP loan act. It is a 100% forgivable loan. Business has been fine.

I'm thinking about so many other ppl out there. And the long term impact.






[Edited on 6-7-2020 by JZ]


I have to agree with the previous post regarding hospital charges: show evidence that hospitals put patients w/o severe covid-19 symptom on ventilators for more medicare $ or you are no better than right winged radio hosts like Rush Limbough and Glen Beck spewing nonsense listening peeps will sadly think is the truth.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2020 at 07:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I don't think we will truly know the impact of covid-19 until it passes into history. Until the W.H.O. can compare mortality data of previous years with mortality during the covid-19 pandemic. The excess death count will be the most accurate estimate. Right now we really have no idea since there is such a non-uniform method of deciding whether or not covid-19 was the cause of death.


George Washington University did a similar study of excess deaths to estimate the number of fatalities in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria. In the absence of other reliable data, this might be the only way to estimate the mortality of COVID-19.




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