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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 11:27 AM
Covid-19 deaths in USA fall to the lowest levels since March


Despite opening things up everywhere and more cases.









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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 11:44 AM


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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 12:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Fake news


The fake news is the media in the US only focusing on "new cases" and going nuts about it like it's the end of the world.

New cases are higher from more testing and opening things up. The important numbers are new hospitalizations and deaths.

They want Trump out so bad, they are not focusing on what matters. I'm no Trump fan, but it's criminal what they are doing, and any reasonable person (i.e. moderates) should be disgusted.

Remember they didn't give a chit about Covid during the protests.


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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 01:06 PM


Unfortunately Mexico is winning todays new deaths with 1044 so far.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 01:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


The important numbers are new hospitalizations and deaths.

[Edited on 6-22-2020 by JZ]


I agree with that. Both numbers have nothing to do with the amount of testing. And I think new hospitalizations for COVID is the most telling number. It shows the number of people getting severely sick.

A decrease in the deaths could be due to better treatment and younger patients, in addition to a decrease in infections.

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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 01:33 PM


California Hits New High In COVID-19 Hospitalizations

June 22, 2020 2:38 PM ET

"California has reached a new high in the number of hospitalizations related to COVID-19, surpassing the previous peak in late April."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

Not good news.


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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 04:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Fake news


The fake news is the media in the US only focusing on "new cases" and going nuts about it like it's the end of the world.

New cases are higher from more testing and opening things up. The important numbers are new hospitalizations and deaths.

They want Trump out so bad, they are not focusing on what matters. I'm no Trump fan, but it's criminal what they are doing, and any reasonable person (i.e. moderates) should be disgusted.

Remember they didn't give a chit about Covid during the protests.


[Edited on 6-22-2020 by JZ]
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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 05:39 PM


The number of hospitalizations (and cases in ICU) is more important than deaths or daily cases. But I don't see any graph for hospitalizations, only tables.

Here in Canada in 2 biggest provinces hospitalizations are holding steady and NOT declining in the last 2 weeks.

In Mexico it's bad and getting worse. All numbers keep rising - new cases, deaths, active cases.

Deaths show how deadly the virus is overall, regardless of the epidemic stage. Despite the increasing testing, deaths per infected have been higher than initially predicted 3-4%. Mexico: 12%, Canada: 8%, USA: 5.5%. A far cry from 0.5% deaths by seasonal flu.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 06:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
The number of hospitalizations (and cases in ICU) is more important than deaths or daily cases. But I don't see any graph for hospitalizations, only tables.

Here in Canada in 2 biggest provinces hospitalizations are holding steady and NOT declining in the last 2 weeks.

In Mexico it's bad and getting worse. All numbers keep rising - new cases, deaths, active cases.

Deaths show how deadly the virus is overall, regardless of the epidemic stage. Despite the increasing testing, deaths per infected have been higher than initially predicted 3-4%. Mexico: 12%, Canada: 8%, USA: 5.5%. A far cry from 0.5% deaths by seasonal flu.


If you legit think it is anywhere in the zip code of 5.5% in the US... you should never speak on this, or any topic, again.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 06:47 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
The number of hospitalizations (and cases in ICU) is more important than deaths or daily cases. But I don't see any graph for hospitalizations, only tables.

Here in Canada in 2 biggest provinces hospitalizations are holding steady and NOT declining in the last 2 weeks.

In Mexico it's bad and getting worse. All numbers keep rising - new cases, deaths, active cases.

Deaths show how deadly the virus is overall, regardless of the epidemic stage. Despite the increasing testing, deaths per infected have been higher than initially predicted 3-4%. Mexico: 12%, Canada: 8%, USA: 5.5%. A far cry from 0.5% deaths by seasonal flu.


If you legit think it is anywhere in the zip code of 5.5% in the US... you should never speak on this, or any topic, again.



[Edited on 6-23-2020 by JZ]


JZ is correct. Your numbers are ridiculous. Please stop spreading fear with false numbers.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 06:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


If you legit think it is anywhere in the zip code of 5.5% in the US... you should never speak on this, or any topic, again

[Edited on 6-23-2020 by JZ]


Slick,
Reading comprehension and cultural sensitivity are not your strengths...stick with your pics and drone vids.

Who TF are you to tell anyone when and about what they may speak.... keep that for your dog and family

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:04 PM


on the contrary - Mexico is catching up to the US
highest daily death rate so far - 1,000+

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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:07 PM


and by the way, even thought the rates are as low as Germany (and that means LOW), La Paz is experiencing a 2nd wave. Not pretty

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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


If you legit think it is anywhere in the zip code of 5.5% in the US... you should never speak on this, or any topic, again

[Edited on 6-23-2020 by JZ]


Slick,
Reading comprehension and cultural sensitivity are not your strengths...stick with your pics and drone vids.



Who TF are you to tell anyone when and about what they may speak.... keep that for your dog and family

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

[Edited on 6-23-2020 by motoged]


Motoged,
Quoting a CNN article, which quotes a POS like Bill De Blasio who is a Marxist... is an even bigger joke. Sorry Ged, you are way off on this one. And your numbers are just plain wrong. I think you are a thoughtful person based on your posts. I disagree with many of your posts but this is ridiculous. Stick to known facts. The death rates arent anywhere near that number. Fact.

P.S. I for one am very happy for everyone that the numbers are much lower. I wish all people could be happy for any good news at this time.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:08 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
on the contrary - Mexico is catching up to the US
highest daily death rate so far - 1,000+



Yeah, MX is getting hit really hard.

Doesn't have the hospital system to deal with it. As well as the inability to social distance. Really sad.






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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  

deaths per infected have been higher than initially predicted 3-4%. Mexico: 12%, Canada: 8%, USA: 5.5%. A far cry from 0.5% deaths by seasonal flu.


Numbers like these are suspect because nobody accurately knows the number of infected people and testing protocols differ from one country to the next.

Or am I missing something?

Where did you get this info?





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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  

P.S. I for one am very happy for everyone that the numbers are much lower. I wish all people could be happy for any good news at this time.


Not true, California just hit a record high in hospitalizations.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...




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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  


Numbers like these are suspect because nobody accurately knows the number of infected people and testing protocols differ from one country to the next.

Or am I missing something?

Where did you get this info?



There are whack-ado sites out there that put the US at 5%. Anyone who thinks about it with an unbiased mind knows it's about 500% lower.





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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
and by the way, even thought the rates are as low as Germany (and that means LOW), La Paz is experiencing a 2nd wave. Not pretty




This is still the 1st wave. Second wave will be late fall/winter.

I had an hour long call with one of my friends in Germany last week. He's feeling much better about the German economy right now.





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[*] posted on 6-22-2020 at 07:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


There are whack-ado sites out there that put the US at 5%. Anyone who thinks about it with an unbiased mind knows it's about 500% lower.



Will you guys stop making claims without back-up references, please. Am I just supposed to believe you?




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