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Cases Surge in Ca, Az, Tx, Fl
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-06-24-2... - full article requires subscription but you'll find same info elsewhere in news.
30% week over week increase in Texas (my comment - hard to believe that this is because they are now testing more).
In Texas more than 50% of those infections were in people in the 20-49-year-old age range. The virus still appears to be most lethal among the
elderly.
Cases in Florida were similarly concentrated among people between the ages of 25 and 54, accounting for 50% of all positive test cases.
Cases in Arizona have jumped nearly 50% from a week earlier, the largest increase by any state in the country. Nearly 48% of all positive cases were
among people between the ages of 22-44.
The percentage of ICU beds in use throughout Arizona continue to hover in the mid 80% range for the last 7 days, up from the upper 60% and mid-70%
range throughout March, April and May.
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"30% week over week increase in Texas (my comment - hard to believe that this is because they are now testing more)."
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at 30% per week, approximately 18 days for the number of cases to double.
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | "30% week over week increase in Texas (my comment - hard to believe that this is because they are now testing more)."
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at 30% per week, approximately 18 days for the number of cases to double.
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The surge might not last 18 days, so we might not see the double.
What looks more serious to me is the record numbers of hospitalizations in AZ and TX - don't remember about CA, there is no comprehensive source with
graphs for this important marker. Number of deaths reflects how serious it was 2-3 weeks earlier, number of hospitalizations reflects more current
situation.
Another report today noted increased positivity in these states, i.e. higher percentage of tests comes positive, so increased incidence of cases is
not caused by increased testing alone.
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I think you're right. Hospitalization and percent of tests that are positive are telling numbers, and graphs of them over time would show the
all-important trend lines. As you said, deaths are a lagging indicator (by 2 - 3 weeks??). That's largely why there can be a lower death count with an
increased infection count on any given day.
The map at the following link shows new cases in the US. You can zoom in using the plus/minus on the upper right. Moving your cursor over the map
shows data by county including two-week trend lines. It's an interesting and well-done graphic that is updated daily.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-c...
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Back to the original post: anyone bother to check the latest version of JZ's graph?
Anyone care to explain away the 300% increase in deaths since JZ paraded out the lowest # of deaths!
and BTW - in my opinion, the number we need to be seeing is rarely shown. That is the % of tests that are coming back positive.
Over 5% - thats bad
under 5% - things trending in the right direction!
deaths - death rates - there is good news there - the medical system is getting better at dealing with severe cases - even though they are not
giving sunshine enemas and bleach injections, and stopped killing their patients with Hydrocholorquin.
plus, younger patients - even if very sick, have a better chance of recovery.
But there is still a bottom line here, and everyone seems to ignore that, especially as they whistle past the graveyard:
2.43 million, and 124, 000. those 124000 people that died - and their families and loved ones - they don't think this is a hoax!
stay safe and do the others around you the respect of wearing a mask - show them you value their life, over your personal comfort
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Covid-19 cases are skyrocketing in California and Arizona and Texas,...
Things looking very bleak. Many more people expected to die.
Crazies are raging against public health measures, screaming nonsense about their constitutional rights to be Typhoid Marys. Wtf?
Meanwhile, sanity prevails in Europe, people are getting back to life, and observing public health measures like responsible public-minded citizens,
and cases are declining.... proof that socialism works!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Hey JZ, sometimes those facts and figures, taken as a snap shot, come back to bite you in the butt eh? hows that graph treating your personal
beliefs now?
and FWIW, health experts predicted a huge increase in infections 2-3 weeks after memorial day - uh - looks like they may be right - eh?
and one more thing - these same prognosticators predicted a big jump in deaths 5-6 weeks after memorial day. Time will tell, but sometimes,
whether you like it or not - science gets it right, and if that contradicts your personal beliefs - thats too damned bad!
so all of you non mask wearing people, time to get back onto your huffing Lysol , mainlining Clorox, and getting sunshine blown up your butt hole!
us science nerds, we will continue to show our respect for everyone else by wearing our masks! we will continue "ingesting" new data, and alter our
behaviors and beliefs as necessary to fit with those data driven medically backed suggestions and procedures !
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[Edited on 6-26-2020 by BajaNomad]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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That data is 10 days old goat - get the current numbers - that will really open your eyes! Or at least make the Hoax crowds head explode!
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The facts!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-c...
The disease is raging out of control. Federal leadership is absent, and incompetent. The White House is preventing public health actions to stop the
disease, all because they want to make the disease response a political issue.... their politicking will lead to many thousands of additional deaths
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Hey JZ, sometimes those facts and figures, taken as a snap shot, come back to bite you in the butt eh? hows that graph treating your personal
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I recall his firm belief was not that Covid-19 wasn't lethal, but that it would only kill "some old lady" while a 40-year old father of family could
keep working and traveling as usual. Here is a news for a manlier half of the population - women tend to last longer than men under most any disease,
including Covid-19. Old ladies are also very cautious when it comes to personal safety.
Graph in the post #1 is correct. Those not willing to subscribe to NYT may bookmark this link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/. Scroll down to graphs. Deaths were declining until approximately mid-June, then leveled
up. Not dropping anymore. We shall see. Most cases (in this recent surge) are focused on 25-45 age segment, they die less, but they're spreading the
disease to those who are more likely to die. Hospitalizations have surged, this is not good. There were studies earlier that many survivors had heart
and lung complications afterwards.
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Hey JZ, sometimes those facts and figures, taken as a snap shot, come back to bite you in the butt eh? hows that graph treating your personal
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Why are you rooting for ppl to die?
The point of the post was to discuss good news of the death rate coming down. If you look at the graph, it always spikes back up from the low point.
So nothing new there.
Of course there are more cases. More testing, huge protest crowds, rallies, things opening up. The number of cases going up is to be expected.
In sum, not sure what point you are trying to make other than being an burrohat.
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From above link... most recent info available from Johns Hopkins University of new daily cases charts. And remember, Mexico has said they chose to
not implement testing widely... so their #'s are likely the most under-reported.
   
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Doug, are there graphs adjusted to the population of these four regions? The population of Canada is hardly close to others but the graph scales are
the same, at least visually.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | If you look at the graph, it always spikes back up from the low point. So nothing new there.
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You are making conclusions about things you don't understand. There are lows and highs on the graphs but there are also averaging curves, trends.
Right now the trend (of deaths) is neither up nor down. Other markers - new cases and hospitalizations - have surged.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Doug, are there graphs adjusted to the population of these four regions? The population of Canada is hardly close to others but the graph scales are
the same, at least visually. |
Click on the image to see the #'s on the left.
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While death rates are highly relevant, there are also other factors to contend with for some % of the survivors. Seems like it's not quite like
overcoming typical influenza? Actual impact to be determined at a later date/decade/etc.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-ef...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-12/covid-19-...
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David, graph doesn't need to be population-adjusted to see whether numbers are rising or dropping.
Per capita cases in Canada are lower than in the USA.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
You are making conclusions about things you don't understand. There are lows and highs on the graphs but there are also averaging curves, trends.
Right now the trend (of deaths) is neither up nor down. Other markers - new cases and hospitalizations - have surged. |
No one will ever take you seriously on anything again after you told us the death rate is 8% in Canada and 5.5% in the US.
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Cases more than doubled where I am!
In western Nevada County (CA) we have been largely spared from the virus. The count of confirmed cases stood at 12 for two months,
but since June 16 the total has risen to 30!
In an interview with the management of the local hospital (aired on our local radio station) it was disclosed that the number of people requiring
hospitalization is seven, with no deaths. An outbreak here could be bad, since this side of the county is a retirement community.
The eastern side of the county has a much smaller and younger population, but they have more active cases than the west. The entire
county population is about 100k +/- .
Nevada County Corona dashboard; https://mynevadacounty.com/2924/Coronavirus
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