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gnukid
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Interesting that sharing the CDC data showing revision and evolution toward a normal flu like respiratory illness season provokes such disappointment
and rancor with the morbid obsessed. I'll share the CDC COVID Viewer link again for review. Make up your own mind, though be aware this data is
conflated Pneumonia, common Flu, and COVID19 SUSPECTED PROVISIONAL, that is revised each week, providing increased clarity. Zero excess deaths are
attributed to COVID19 today officially according to CDC.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidvi...
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Quote: Originally posted by lightfeet  | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | It is illegal to force a mask on people in USA or Mexico, especially by force. Each person has personal health requirements and can be restricted or
discriminated for their individual health requirements and disabilities. |
Probably true, but there are no laws that say stores and public places have to allow COVID-19 a-hole deniers in their stores without a mask.
If they have a health condition that requires them not to wear a mask, they must prove it with a doctor's note.
If this ever went to the courts, the courts would probably side with the mask wear crown, because health and safety overrules any personal freedom of
not wearing a mask.
Gnukid, put your mask on!
I also look forward to the day that pig cops stop white a-hole Trumpsters, and demand they put on their masks for the safety of the community and when
the Trumpsters refuse, the pig cops beat the hold chit out of them, because that's what pig cops do best.
[Edited on 6-28-2020 by lightfeet] |
Absolutely, it's illegal to require or to ask someone to physically restrict their nose and mouth with a face mask or to ask them why their personal
health requirements requires they do or don't wear a mask, covered in the ADA and HIPPA acts.
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No Mask ?
No Access.
Simple. And legal.
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A lot of places here are enforcing wearing a mask. As soonj a you walk in no mask you are asked to leave and if you don't want to leave several
employees will help you. Story in the local paper about an ACE Hardware store where the lady owner confronts you when you come in, no mask no service.
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The column written by Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust, MS, an emergency medicine specialist affiliated with Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Massachusetts,
states that flu deaths are estimated while COVID-19 deaths are confirmed cases.
He notes that during mid-April the “counted deaths” for COVID-19 in the United States were around 15,000 per week. During a typical “peak
week” for the flu, the “counted deaths” are about 750.
Faust concludes that COVID-19 deaths are actually anywhere from 10 times to 44 times the number of influenza fatalities.
Other experts say there are also reasons beyond the raw statistics that indicate COVID-19 is more dangerous than influenza.
[Edited on 6-28-2020 by Stickers]
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"FDA approves a drug that reduces your chance of getting COVID-19 by 5X
Its trade name is Wearamaskbuttcrack. Side effects include mild inconvenience, being ostracized by anti-vaxxers, and the power to stop your own
asymptomatic transmission as we dive into the next viral wave.
Check with your doctor (or really anyone) to see if Wearamaskbuttcrack is right for you.
*Shared from a reliable source: Everyone with a remedial understanding of how infectious diseases are transmitted. "
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | Wait a minute.
I'm all for masks (I care about others), but you're saying that wearing a (non-N95) mask reduces your chances of getting infected by
5x (80%)? I question that assertion. |
It's satire, read the entire post.
EDIT: Oops, maybe the 5X part is correct, this from another post:
"An analysis of 172 studies across the world found that using a mask or respirator might reduce the risk of getting infected to 3.1%, compared to
17.4% without a face covering."
That's roughly 80% reduction.
Still, surabi's post was surely in jest.
John
[Edited on 6-29-2020 by John Harper]
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Bahaaaa ! I knew it was coming to "Nomads" but my money was on paranewbi pulling out this Gem!
I suspect he's now a bit chaffed because Gnukid beat him to the punch!
Gnukid posts this nonsense making the rounds!
"Absolutely, it's illegal to require or to ask someone to physically restrict their nose and mouth with a face mask or to ask them why their personal
health requirements requires they do or don't wear a mask, covered in the ADA and HIPPA acts"
This of course is complete - uh - Bovine Excrement, easily shown to be completely false if one uses that new fangled information finder - I think
they call it the google?
Heres the history of this crap,
https://www.insider.com/anti-mask-protesters-cite-ada-disabi...
or look at snopes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/valid-face-mask-exemption-...
Hijacking a law meant to protect individuals with real diabilities to allow you to continue to ignore the health and safety of others around you -
how cute.
it's not your right to infect others with a deadly disease - what makes you think it's OK?
Now - heres the good news for you no mask Democratic Hoax, 125000 dead people dont matter crowd. it looks like you will soon be able to publicly
state your opinions and ideals by refusing to get vaccinated for this disease.
All of us here can make our own choice !
if you fall into the:
" Those stupid lefty libs will line up to get vaccinated, but us "right" minded individuals, who can discern truth from no fact, or even counter to
facts - we will make our point clear - no Vaccines for us special people!"
Guess what, i wholly support your decision to not get vaccinated. it's your chance to prove once and for all that you are right about this covid BS!
I hope the vaccine gets here soon- as i want to see who here really stands behind their words!
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Bahaaaa ! I knew it was coming to "Nomads" but my money was on paranewbi pulling out this Gem!
I suspect he's now a bit chaffed because Gnukid beat him to the punch!
Gnukid posts this nonsense making the rounds!
"Absolutely, it's illegal to require or to ask someone to physically restrict their nose and mouth with a face mask or to ask them why their personal
health requirements requires they do or don't wear a mask, covered in the ADA and HIPPA acts"
This of course is complete - uh - Bovine Excrement, easily shown to be completely false if one uses that new fangled information finder - I think
they call it the google?
Heres the history of this crap,
https://www.insider.com/anti-mask-protesters-cite-ada-disabi...
or look at snopes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/valid-face-mask-exemption-...
Hijacking a law meant to protect individuals with real diabilities to allow you to continue to ignore the health and safety of others around you -
how cute.
it's not your right to infect others with a deadly disease - what makes you think it's OK?
Now - heres the good news for you no mask Democratic Hoax, 125000 dead people dont matter crowd. it looks like you will soon be able to publicly
state your opinions and ideals by refusing to get vaccinated for this disease.
All of us here can make our own choice !
if you fall into the:
" Those stupid lefty libs will line up to get vaccinated, but us "right" minded individuals, who can discern truth from no fact, or even counter to
facts - we will make our point clear - no Vaccines for us special people!"
Guess what, i wholly support your decision to not get vaccinated. it's your chance to prove once and for all that you are right about this covid BS!
I hope the vaccine gets here soon- as i want to see who here really stands behind their words!
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Pulled my name out of a hat Caj? Just a little dig at me, I know. Not a snowflake, go at it.
I do wear my Immune Avoidance Device (mask) at all times when I'm around others in public...for them.
That way I can also pay for an Immunity Injection (shot) and support the pharmaceutical industry for taking the risk of investing in research.
Just the same way I do with my annual flu shot. Vaccines don't bother me at all. What does bother me:
World wide deaths from Covid are at 500,000 now
World wide deaths from abortion are at 21 million so far this year.
Not to worry Caj, you and I have avoided being one of those who had a 30% chance of being aborted (based on 66 million 'live births' so far this
year).
[Edited on 6-29-2020 by paranewbi]
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pacificobob
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should i assume you have adopted a number of children paranubie? generously donated to charities serving unwanted kids?
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Obviously, the more testing that is done,
the more cases that will be documented.
actual deaths is another thing
I saw today that in NY deaths were only six in one day
down from 800 a day in the early stages.
What is going on here?
Did the virus sweep through and cull out the most vulnerable population, and then peter out? Or was social distancing to credit.
Or, does everyone already have it. been feeling like crap for months
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by lencho | Wait a minute.
I'm all for masks (I care about others), but you're saying that wearing a (non-N95) mask reduces your chances of getting infected by
5x (80%)? I question that assertion. |
It's satire, read the entire post.
EDIT: Oops, maybe the 5X part is correct, this from another post:
"An analysis of 172 studies across the world found that using a mask or respirator might reduce the risk of getting infected to 3.1%, compared to
17.4% without a face covering."
That's roughly 80% reduction.
Still, surabi's post was surely in jest.
John
[Edited on 6-29-2020 by John Harper] |
Of course it's satire. It's really sad that we should even have to come up with satire about this stuff. That people refuse to wear a mask, as if
they're being forced to donate a kidney, is unbelievable. The number of videos online right now documenting Americans having total freak-out violent
meltdowns about being asked to put on a mask to enter a store is shocking. Americans are the laughing stock of the world, while they continue to die
from COVID at the highest rate on the planet.
There's no fixing stupid, and the US breeds a unique type of crazy.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only people who have the right to an anti-abortion stance are those who have adopted unwanted children. Everyone else,
i.e. the vast majority of anti-abortionists, are raving mad.
What's really rich is that those are the self-same people who are ranting against mask-wearing and distancing and self-isolation. Pro-life, what a
joke.
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by lencho | Wait a minute.
I'm all for masks (I care about others), but you're saying that wearing a (non-N95) mask reduces your chances of getting infected by
5x (80%)? I question that assertion. |
It's satire, read the entire post.
EDIT: Oops, maybe the 5X part is correct, this from another post:
"An analysis of 172 studies across the world found that using a mask or respirator might reduce the risk of getting infected to 3.1%, compared to
17.4% without a face covering."
That's roughly 80% reduction.
Still, surabi's post was surely in jest.
John
[Edited on 6-29-2020 by John Harper] |
Of course it's satire. It's really sad that we should even have to come up with satire about this stuff. That people refuse to wear a mask, as if
they're being forced to donate a kidney, is unbelievable. The number of videos online right now documenting Americans having total freak-out violent
meltdowns about being asked to put on a mask to enter a store is shocking. Americans are the laughing stock of the world, while they continue to die
from COVID at the highest rate on the planet.
There's no fixing stupid, and the US breeds a unique type of crazy. |
When there is a complete and utter failure of leadership at the federal level, this is what you get. This is not how you fight a "war" that affects
the entire country and the world at large.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
As far as I'm concerned, the only people who have the right to an anti-abortion stance are those who have adopted unwanted children. Everyone else,
i.e. the vast majority of anti-abortionists, are raving mad.
What's really rich is that those are the self-same people who are ranting against mask-wearing and distancing and self-isolation. Pro-life, what a
joke. |
Not to pat myself on the back... but two of you are bent towards opinions only being valid when evidence of fulfillment is made aware, here you go;
Worked in orphanages in Mexico
Paid a mother 'child support' for 3 years not to abort her child (no not my own for your sick minds... someone who came to me with indecision). She
eventually married a great man who took her child under his wings.
Hired a mother to be into my company so she wouldn't abort. Child now a successful adult.
Donated personal and employee time and funds to birthing clinic in El Cajon, CA.
Supported (continuing) family in Guatemala ongoing 19 years sending two kids through college in addition to raise standard of living to enhance
ability to ability to provide for generations to come (Kids are now adults and have children). About $3600 annually. App. $90,000 over history.
Support two(2) young mothers in Guatemala with monthly stipend and occasional medical costs as presented. average about $2500 annually.
Now... tell me how many abortions have you two paid for in support of your ethics of pro-abortion?
How many young mothers have you counseled to abort?
and by the way your taxes sent to PP are not voluntary and neither are mine.
You both miss the point of my post. There is such an outcry against a relatively minor percentage of deaths attributed to a contaigon juxtaposed
against a great percentage of children aborted without a thought by you and those who shed tears over a virus.
Oh I forgot, it's just so "inconvenient" to raise those bothersome kids.
Go ahead and post your nonsense about me being a (insert your snide remark) now.
[Edited on 6-30-2020 by paranewbi]
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
As far as I'm concerned, the only people who have the right to an anti-abortion stance are those who have adopted unwanted children. Everyone else,
i.e. the vast majority of anti-abortionists, are raving mad.
What's really rich is that those are the self-same people who are ranting against mask-wearing and distancing and self-isolation. Pro-life, what a
joke. |
bingo!
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Go ahead and post your nonsense about me being a (insert your snide remark) now.
[Edited on 6-30-2020 by paranewbi][/rquote]
insert this [ a self righteous mother Teresa?]
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Usa is number 1. We are winning! Here are the important facts today:
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its coronavirus cases
The US leads the world in cases and deaths
Over 1,000 Americans die every day in the US from coronavirus
More Americans have died from coronavirus than in wars in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan
Many states hit pause on reopening but experts say the spread of coronavirus is now hard to control
Trump refuses to wear a mask because he doesn’t like the look, says he wants to cut testing to make numbers look better. He purports to be our
president,... facts indicate his administration has failed to lead In this pandemic.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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and....the European union has decided travelers from the usa (lower case intentional) are not included in their list welcome visitors.
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There is a book and a movie titled “Love in the time of Cholera”! Perhaps some day someone will write a book called “Hate in the time of
COVID”! They could get the get the general outline from this series of posts.
Those who loath the President never miss an opportunity to view every event through that lens! “More people of all races are working” bad the
President might get re-elected! “People are dying of COVID” good The President will loose the election! People who don’t believe in God are
actually praying for disasters ( Plagues, Droughts, Unemployment, Riots, Looting, etc.) that they can blame on their political enemies. They’re not
fellow Americans, they’re “Deplorable Racists benefiting from White Privilege”! Even during the Civil War the soldiers from both sides generally
aided each other, not today! Give them no quarter and take no prisoners is the Left’s battle cry!
It is worth knowing that the eruption of a volcano in Alaska in the 1st century A.D. so changed the weather around the Mediterranean that the Roman
Republic ended and the Empire began.
Whatever the outcome of “Hate in the time of COVID” it will change America and the world in ways we cannot yet imagine!
“May you live in interesting times!” seems to be where we’re headed. “Be careful what you wish for as your wish may be granted in spades!”
does come to mind as well!
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