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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 05:18 PM


Now that hospital patients are getting younger in average age, watch for the phrase "cytokine storm" in news reports. It's what killed young/middle-aged adults in great numbers during the second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 07:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Now that hospital patients are getting younger in average age, watch for the phrase "cytokine storm" in news reports. It's what killed young/middle-aged adults in great numbers during the second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic.

[Edited on 7-3-2020 by SFandH]


You dudes that are begging for a 2and wave to hit are just awful human beings.

You have literally said this a 100 times on here, give it a rest already.




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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 07:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Now that hospital patients are getting younger in average age, watch for the phrase "cytokine storm" in news reports. It's what killed young/middle-aged adults in great numbers during the second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic.

[Edited on 7-3-2020 by SFandH]


You dudes that are begging for a 2and wave to hit are just awful human beings.

You have literally said this a 100 times on here, give it a rest already.


The second wave has already hit.
Some countries did well responding to the virus. Several like the USA failed miserably.
Trump is desperately spinning to explain How his leadership was so winning and the second wave is everybody else’s fault.
Flat earthers and the selfish and oblivious are wandering around maskless, spreading the virus like a zombie contagion.
Trump moved his convention another city to avoid the social-distancing rules, and now that city has made masks mandatory.
Sweden is opening a government inquiry into why their lax stay-open approach failed so miserably (highest death rate in Europe).
Most of us our shaking our heads saying “I told you so.”




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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 07:44 PM


Goat,

Most of those wandering around w/o masks are protesters. Nothing wrong with masks! Glad you like them! We agree On something! Only 3 or so percent have had the Wuhan Virus. We never left the 1st wave.

You probably aren’t happy about the job numbers either! Live with it!
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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 07:50 PM


Actually, there are a few countries with more deaths per million population than Sweden; https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat...

[Edited on 7-3-2020 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 08:31 PM


This is the 1st wave. 2nd wave will be just before winter.

What SFandH is hoping for is a wave where the virus mutates and becomes more deadly (although caj13 already thinks the death rate in Canada is 8% - lol).


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[*] posted on 7-2-2020 at 08:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

The second wave has already hit.


'The United States is still in the “first wave” of Covid-19 infections. “You hear people saying, ‘We’re heading into a second wave,’ [but] it’s not,” Dr. Greg Poland, professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, founder and director of Mayo Vaccine Research Group, tells CNBC Make It. “It’s all part of this ongoing reservoir of infection in the U.S.” '

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/what-second-wave-of-covid-19...


Former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb has been indicating this for some time:

From mid-June:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/12/coronavirus-spread-isnt-the-...

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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 07:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

The second wave has already hit.


'The United States is still in the “first wave” of Covid-19 infections. “You hear people saying, ‘We’re heading into a second wave,’ [but] it’s not,” Dr. Greg Poland, professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, founder and director of Mayo Vaccine Research Group, tells CNBC Make It. “It’s all part of this ongoing reservoir of infection in the U.S.” '

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/what-second-wave-of-covid-19...


Semantics. When I look at the curve, I call it a second wave. You say tomato, I say to tomato.

But we can rest assured, no need to worry, yesterday Our magnificent leader says we got it under control....

"The crisis is being handled. ... Some areas that were very hard-hit are now doing very well. Some were doing very well, and we thought they may be gone and they flare up, and we're putting out the fires," he said.

I feel so much better knowing that!




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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 09:03 AM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Goat,

Most of those wandering around w/o masks are protesters. Nothing wrong with masks! Glad you like them! We agree On something! Only 3 or so percent have had the Wuhan Virus. We never left the 1st wave.

You probably aren’t happy about the job numbers either! Live with it!


Your conscious bias and obvious xenophobic viewpoint is plain to see in the term you continually use to refer to Covid 19. It makes it difficult, for me at least, to give any merit to anything you may have to say about anything at all. Of course I may have it all wrong and its an unconscious thing you are doing but................




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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 10:38 AM


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And you know Caj.... a day ago I was asked what I had done for diminishing the use of abortion and I recounted a list of my actions for the poser on this thread.
The only response was I was called 'a real mother Theresa'.

Well if you didn't take notice. I have posted that my wife is a Covid Nurse and tends to Covid patients several days a week. She was just tested yesterday, again, and we are thankful she came up negative (although she would desire to be building up anti-bodies if possible).

She lays it on the line everyday to give comfort to those who are sick and we both know, as my family does, if she passed from her efforts, we would all celebrate her life.

Some of our children and grandchildren are also of that mind in their personal lives and I'm proud that we walk the walk and don't just talk.


Ha Ha Ha, I guess i win the pool. My post deifying mother Paranewbi Teresa didn't last for more than 1/2 an hour, but of course Paranewbis derogatory post is still here - interesting!

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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 10:44 AM


Hey RF,
I'm sure with your vast knowledge of Medical History, you know that the worst pandemic of all time - the 1918"Spanish flu" actually came from the good old USA - right - heartland - Kansas!

so lets make sure USA accepts responsibility for the most massive killing spree in the history of the planet,

The "Spanish Flu " needs to be renamed the "Kansas Flu" before you start with your attempts to rename the covid 19 pandemic as a political stunt.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 11:38 AM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Hey RF,
I'm sure with your vast knowledge of Medical History, you know that the worst pandemic of all time - the 1918"Spanish flu" actually came from the good old USA - right - heartland - Kansas!

so lets make sure USA accepts responsibility for the most massive killing spree in the history of the planet,

The "Spanish Flu " needs to be renamed the "Kansas Flu" before you start with your attempts to rename the covid 19 pandemic as a political stunt.


This might be the case. But has not been accepted as 100% fact as you are stating it to be.





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[*] posted on 7-3-2020 at 04:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Hey RF,
I'm sure with your vast knowledge of Medical History, you know that the worst pandemic of all time - the 1918"Spanish flu" actually came from the good old USA - right - heartland - Kansas!

so lets make sure USA accepts responsibility for the most massive killing spree in the history of the planet,

The "Spanish Flu " needs to be renamed the "Kansas Flu" before you start with your attempts to rename the covid 19 pandemic as a political stunt.


This might be the case. But has not been accepted as 100% fact as you are stating it to be.



almost assuredly its true, all research and info point to camp funston (ft riley) and the spread followed the railroad routes across america to eastern seaboard, and other military training camps, and then infected sailors boarded ships went to war in Europe , spreading the disease. There is good evidence that the disease in funston probably came from haskell County bout 300 miles away from camp funston

heres some actual research untainted with your political leaning, pretty good summary of previous work, and pulling it all together
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

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[*] posted on 7-4-2020 at 05:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
This is the 1st wave. 2nd wave will be just before winter.

What SFandH is hoping for is a wave where the virus mutates and becomes more deadly (although caj13 already thinks the death rate in Canada is 8% - lol).


[Edited on 7-3-2020 by JZ]


Hey JZ, I must have been drunk when I said that - i don't remember making that statement, would you care to point me to where i said it?
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[*] posted on 7-4-2020 at 10:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  


heres some actual research ......, pretty good summary of previous work, and pulling it all together
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/



Good link....not too long to read/look at. It might, however, require some critical thinking skills to integrate the info.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2020 at 11:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
This is the 1st wave. 2nd wave will be just before winter.

What SFandH is hoping for is a wave where the virus mutates and becomes more deadly (although caj13 already thinks the death rate in Canada is 8% - lol).


[Edited on 7-3-2020 by JZ]


Hey JZ, I must have been drunk when I said that - i don't remember making that statement, would you care to point me to where i said it?


My sincere apologies. It was Alm, the rice, beans, and rocks guy from BoLA.





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[*] posted on 7-5-2020 at 09:00 AM
Mutating Hopes and Dreams


While the BEST mutation scenario would be one in which COVID became less virulent and eventually disappeared, I would have to say (from a personal AND practical standpoint) that a second-best would be a mutation which resulted in a heavier dose of illness and death for those younger, especially young adults and children.

THAT would dramatically change the current blase attitude among the populace which is continuing to bring about increased spread.

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[*] posted on 7-6-2020 at 10:58 AM


Simpson's Paradox
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1278750652160634880.html?...




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[*] posted on 7-6-2020 at 11:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by monoloco  
Simpson's Paradox
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1278750652160634880.html?...


excellent, thanks for posting monoloco. i hope everyone will read this. however, I'll wager the ones who need to read it most will not.
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[*] posted on 7-6-2020 at 12:43 PM


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