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4x4abc
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local guy:
https://www.facebook.com/luiseduardo.chavezgamboa
Harald Pietschmann
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mjs
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Re your first link (cnbc) 4100 breakthrough cases out of 150 million + fully vaccinated persons. That's less than .003 percent. No one ever claimed
the Vaccine was 100% effective. Considering that the pre-vaccine covid death rate (Hospitalizations excluded) was 3% (per August 2020 CDC data), seems
like the vaccine are working.
The opinion bias of your gateway pundit links is so obvious as to make them highly suspect at a minimum and unworthy of serious consideration.
The reason for continuing mask and distancing is due to ongoing spread by those who refuse to get vaccinated. Don't like mask and distancing? Let's
just put the blame where it belongs. You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem. Pretty obvious which part you are.
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gnukid
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Quote: Originally posted by mjs  |
Re your first link (cnbc) 4100 breakthrough cases out of 150 million + fully vaccinated persons. That's less than .003 percent. No one ever claimed
the Vaccine was 100% effective. Considering that the pre-vaccine covid death rate (Hospitalizations excluded) was 3% (per August 2020 CDC data), seems
like the vaccine are working.
The opinion bias of your gateway pundit links is so obvious as to make them highly suspect at a minimum and unworthy of serious consideration.
The reason for continuing mask and distancing is due to ongoing spread by those who refuse to get vaccinated. Don't like mask and distancing? Let's
just put the blame where it belongs. You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem. Pretty obvious which part you are.
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This data set does not represent the total number of vaccinated hospitalizations deaths, the point is that CDC STATES VACCINATED ARE HOSPITALIZED OR
DEAD FROM BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS in ADDITION to injuries and deaths from vaccines. The total number of deaths is much higher since few are reported,
CDC is obfuscating the data in a variety of manner, deleting data as reported by internal whistleblowers, CDC also clearly states they use different
criteria to measure cases and deaths for unvaccinated versus vaccinated.
Suggesting that the source quoting CDC data set makes the data search invalid is absurd, READ the news, globally and locally, vaccinated are leading
COVID infection cases and deaths today.
Furthermore, suggesting that those of us who are naturally recuperated with broad immunity are somehow the cause of vaccinated infections and deaths
is either willfully ignorant or delusional.
This is not an issue worthy of personal attack, this is an Institutional fraud preplanned to cause significant harm.
Wake Up
CDC: 4,115 Fully Vaccinated Have Been Hospitalized Or Died With Breakthrough Covid-19 Infections
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/26/cdc-4115-fu...
CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/covid-breakthrough-cases-cdc...
Delta variant outbreak in Israel spreads to some vaccinated adults
https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/delta-variant-outbreak-in-isra...
Israel delays entry for vaccinated tourists as delta variant spreads
https://news.yahoo.com/israel-delays-entry-vaccinated-touris...
[Edited on 6-27-2021 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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Keep in mind the vaccinations PROMOTE SPIKE PROTEIN propagation throughout the body and organs, resulting in blood clots, heart inflammation, cytokine
storm, and pathogenic priming for breakthrough infection, while the vaccines provide no reduced risk to infection or transmission.
Focus on your personal health, nutrition, sunshine fresh air, exercise, build a health kit of vitamins to improve immunity and have a plan for
treatment at first sign of covid type symptom.
READ RESEARCH PREPARE
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JZ
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How available is the vaccine?
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
I'm astounded: You think the international scientific and medical community has been plotting to bring this thing about?
We can't even agree on anything in this tiny microcosm of BajaNomad, how would an international group like that possibly coordinate enough to
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I'm sorry have you been living under a rock?
READ the publicly available news and FOIA release of Fauci's email where he clearly communicates they have colluded to create a lab based corona virus
that is highly infectious but not particularly risky, hid and denied all treatments, in order to push for EUA of their vaccines.
All patents and planning were done prior to first seed on the ground of infection going back to far before 2019.
Fauci and Gates et al presented their plan in public many times in advance in Event 201 Simulations, speeches about educing population through
vaccines etc.
I've shared perhaps 2000 sources here since Dec 2019 here, if you are unwilling or unable to READ, or self manage your personal health, it's your
personal choice.
This is not a personal fight between Nomads, we are in the midst of a premeditated global fraud that has caused signifiant injury and death.
You are welcome to make your own decisions and conclusions, if you want to take a vaccines, mix n match, boost up, isolate, alcohol hand wash, mask
up, abandon family and friends, it's absolutely your choice.
[Edited on 6-27-2021 by gnukid]
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surabi
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"The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right[2] fake news website.[1] The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
theories.[21]"
Wikipedia
I find it a really bizarre phenomenon how the "I do yoga and meditate and don't eat gluten" new- agers and the right wing Qanon conspiracy nuts, which
seem like unlikely bedfellows, have teamed up in their mis-information anti-vax campaign.
[Edited on 6-27-2021 by surabi]
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gnukid
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Sorry you have to click through to CDC source, I doubt providing this direct link helps you to READ the source.
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Case Investigation and Reporting
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/bre...
Recovery of deleted deep sequencing data sheds more
light on the early Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 epidemic
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1....
[Edited on 6-27-2021 by gnukid]
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SFandH
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gnukid's posts remind me of a verse from an old Buffalo Springfield song:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
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del mar
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | gnukid's posts remind me of a verse from an old Buffalo Springfield song:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
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remember Napoleon XIV? 
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surabi
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The problem with gnukid and his ilk is not that they present information on the possible health repercussions of vaccines- no medication is 100% safe
for 100% of the people.
Nor is there anything wrong with pointing out that eating well, exercising and staying as healthy as possible will help to ward off infections, of any
kind. Basically healthy people are always at less risk for any disease than unhealthy people.
The problem is that these anti-vaxxers are fanatics. And as fanatics, they reject any information which doesn't align with their preconceived ideas.
And are unwilling to weigh risk factors.
I have no doubt that injecting foreign substances into one's body isn't ideal and could have long term negative effects for some people. But when you
look at those risk factors (not the conspiracy ones, but the real ones like the blood clot cases) there's no comparison to the risk of serious
illness, long term health effects, or death, if you contract Covid.
I also find it ridiculous that the anti-vaxxers think pointing out how the pharmaceutical companies and anyone who has a financial stake in them is
relevant. Of course companies, no matter what their business is, are all about profits. That doesn't mean they are purposely trying to harm people.
Following that line of thinking, airlines exist in order to have plane crashes. Car manufacturers sell cars so people can have car accidents, etc,
etc.
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mtgoat666
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https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/the-psycholo...
The Psychology Behind Conspiracy Theories
Do we have some armchair psychologists that can diagnose gnukid and tell us about the particulars of gnukid’ s faulty wiring?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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SFandH
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08 Jul 2021
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
BC is not updating data.
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Don Pisto
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and the government is saying the death toll could be 60% higher than reported......
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-adds-nearly-80...
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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SFandH
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This is what's stated:
"The government has said the real number of cases is likely significantly higher, and separate data published recently suggested the actual death toll
could be 60% higher than the official count."
"separate data" "suggested" "could be" 60% higher"
yikes, talk about a weak statement.
[Edited on 7-8-2021 by SFandH]
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caj13
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Hey Gnukid:
600,000 dead vrs 4100 - duh!
99% of covid deaths being reported currently are among unvaccinated individuals in the UDA - Duh!
I feel for you - what do you do now - you and your crew of clown conspirators proudly strutted around without your masks to prove just how special
you are.
but now - since those vaccinated are going without masks - now how do you protest? do you mask up to prove you are not "stupid enough" to get the
vaccine?
at this point - you show up unvaccinated - and you are threating my health and well being - that's not part of your personal freedom bucko -
That instead is a personal threat to myself and my health, and an open invitation to make sure you "understand" that I need to defend my personal
health!
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LancairDriver
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Uh Oh. I bet Gnukid is scared now.😂
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SFandH
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Grrrrr.....
"Pfizer is about to seek U.S. authorization for a third dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, saying Thursday that another shot within 12 months could
dramatically boost immunity and maybe help ward off the latest worrisome coronavirus mutant."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/pfizer-to-seek-approval-...
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DouglasP
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It's posts like cag13 that pull the curtain back on where individuals get the news "feed".
Talking points issued, get out there and spew!
By the way, anyone that has a "news feed" is doomed in my not so humble opinion.
Think about that term for a bit, "news feed". I'm thinking nipple. 🙄
[Edited on 7-9-2021 by DouglasP]
I like beer, better than most people.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Hey Gnukid:
600,000 dead vrs 4100 - duh!
99% of covid deaths being reported currently are among unvaccinated individuals in the UDA - Duh!
I feel for you - what do you do now - you and your crew of clown conspirators proudly strutted around without your masks to prove just how special
you are.
but now - since those vaccinated are going without masks - now how do you protest? do you mask up to prove you are not "stupid enough" to get the
vaccine?
at this point - you show up unvaccinated - and you are threating my health and well being - that's not part of your personal freedom bucko -
That instead is a personal threat to myself and my health, and an open invitation to make sure you "understand" that I need to defend my personal
health! |
Gnukid spouts off about the vaccine being dangerous, but he pretty clearly got vaccinated. Hypocrite.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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