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Alm
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... and NVIC are collecting data on injuries and death forcefully from the doctors, Al Capone style  ....
Where did that "voluntary" came from, I wonder. Doctors are required by FDA to report death occurring after vaccination even it's unclear
whether it was caused by vaccine.
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  | | the national vaccine information center cited by gnunut above is making huge profits selling vitamins to the anti vaxxers. Google it.
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NVIC's only product is paranoia. However, a lot of their funding comes from certain vitamin manufacturers and distributors. A synergetic alliance -
NVIC sells fear, people take vitamins instead of a vaccine.
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Government announces completion of adult vaccinations in Baja California
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/government-anno...
Maybe the restrictions on Mexicans crossing the border will be lifted this month.
[Edited on 7-12-2021 by SFandH]
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
Mr. Carlson, the highest-rated Fox News host, with an average of 2.9 million viewers, said the Biden plan was an attempt to “force people to take
medicine they don’t want or need.” He called the initiative “the greatest scandal in my lifetime, by far.” |
Politicizing the problem, how original. There was a poll a while ago - how many people want or don't want to get vaccinated, the numbers were 65% for,
35% against, or something like that. An incidental finding - the number of people voting against was higher in black and poor districts, and also
among those with less education and those who voted for Trump. It was in Wall Street Journal.
Here in Canada nurses doing vaccinations on Indian reserves complained that many Indians don't believe in coronavirus. They believe this to be a tale
fabricated by pale-face enemies. They didn't vote for Trump but mostly fit other criteria identified by the above poll. Epidemiologists were talking
to the chiefs. Case counts are high in some bands, threatening the very existence of a small nation.
Mexico vaccination rate is 16%, not very impressive. Earlier this year volunteers were going door to door in Tijuana, trying to convince people get
tested. Same problem as with Indians - many either don't believe in coronavirus or don't want to know. Maybe this changed later. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-califo...
US case counts have doubled in recent weeks, epidemiologists say the rise is driven by Delta variant, summer socializing and younger unvaccinated
people.
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as a kid in last century, i never imagined the level of ignorance existing in this century.
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covid report from san juanico...
https://www.facebook.com/alejandrorojastirado/
“SAN JUANICO UN GRITO DESESPERADO” ⛑🏥🚨🚨
Los más olvidados de BCS se encuentran desesperados por ayuda y las autoridades no los escuchan……
Esta es la narrativa de Jaime Rendon habitante de San Juanico, mejor conocido como “Scorpion Bay”
Amigo Alejandro Rojas, es para informarle la situación de nuestro pueblo , San Juanico , el brote de covid infectó a casi medio pueblo , ocupamos
que alguien nos escuche , es desesperante , muchos positivos , sin ambulancia , ni medico , ni medicamentos , los enfermos los estan sacando en carros
particulares con el riesgo de mas contagios , ya hay muertes , familias enteras contagiadas , la actividad pesquera y economica se detuvo , no hay
nada de medicamento , los turistas siguen llegando y no hay un control carretero , las autoridades hacen caso omiso , ocupamos difundir , hacer que
las autoridades nos escuchen, el pueblo se esta uniendo para comprar una ambulancia , imagínese el grado de desesperacion , dios nos proteja y a
toda la Baja Sur, espero que por medio de usted nos ayuden, las dos veces que nos visito en San Juanico pudimos ver el usted el hombre de visión y
humano “Por favor ayúdenos”
Atentamente; Jaime Rendon un humilde pescador
Hago un llamado a todos los funcionarios de todas las fracciones, alcaldes, gobernador, congreso del estado a que nos unamos para sacar a San Juanico
de su “Grito Desesperado” a las autoridades de salud “George Flores” hagámoslo por Humanidad”
Les pido a todos mis seguidores compartan la presente publicación y eduquen al funcionario por el que votaron. “ Juntos podemos !!
Respetuosamente
Alejandro Rojas
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Paul,
You seem to be mis-using the data…
“ The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health
problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.‘“
“A report to VAERS does not mean that the vaccine caused the adverse event, only that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination." The
disclaimer continues, "The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverifiable."
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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I've heard an "on the ground" report from San Juanico as well. Things do not look good there. While a couple weeks ago, it was "business as usual",
it seems there are a lot of sick people, and and a couple of recent deaths over the past couple days.
Fishing and other things are starting to get shut down, yet the hotels and camping are still "lleno".
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Careful out there. The more contagious delta mutation is causing problems, even for some vaccinated people.
https://news.google.com/search?q=fully%20vaccinated%20gettin...
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
“A report to VAERS does not mean that the vaccine caused the adverse event, only that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination."
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Yes.
There was analysis of John Hopkins data.
Incidence of deaths caused by vaccines is 0.002%.
Case fatality after Covid infection in the US without vaccine is 2%.
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| Quote: Originally posted by aburruss | I've heard an "on the ground" report from San Juanico as well. Things do not look good there. While a couple weeks ago, it was "business as usual",
it seems there are a lot of sick people, and and a couple of recent deaths over the past couple days.
Fishing and other things are starting to get shut down, yet the hotels and camping are still "lleno". |
Maybe Dr. gnukid will visit san Juanico to hand out vitamins, soup, organic veggies and fresh air he says will cure covid, eh?
[Edited on 7-15-2021 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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This delta mutation is such a drag. Things have taken a turn for the worse in the past couple of weeks.
Why aren't marooons like Tucker Carlson and his fellow Fox freaks arrested for yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater?
The anti-vax folks need to be silenced.
‘Pandemic of the unvaccinated’ burdens busy U.S. hospitals
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/pandemic-of-the-unvaccin...
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At this point, if you have made the choice to not be vaccinated, you are on your own. your decisions and actions have consequences, you make the
decision, you accept the consequences.
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | At this point, if you have made the choice to not be vaccinated, you are on your own. your decisions and actions have consequences, you make the
decision, you accept the consequences. |
Except when your selfish use of hospital space deprives a responsible person of treatment for other emergencies.
Selfish is, as selfish does. People not vaxxed are just selfish POS.
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17 Jul 2021
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus - not updated
BC - new data source -
Comisión Estatal de Servicios Públicos de Tijuana - 16/07/21 ...
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=164292602434166&_rdr
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
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Hey gnuey - lets make this real easy - very simple!
Your first link
Covid Vaccine Deaths USA Now 10,991
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality
any idea where that data came from?
Any idea how many of those "reported deaths" are from covid vaccines?
Who / what organization put up that website? And their history?
and lastly
assuming this were actual data accurately reflecting Covid vaccine deaths - (which it clearly is not)
so you are very concerned about the reported 10,9991 deaths caused by the vaccine - that is truely horrible
but you seem to have no concern at all for 608,000?
How can any compassionate caring human ignore 608,000 deaths, while they apparently show such great concerns over the deaths of 10,991? did you
fail math?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Odd you should mention that common heat related cause of death. Here in our health area of 800,000 population we just lost more seniors in 2 days due
to excessive temperatures than in 1 1/2 years with Covid. "Vaccines" without a long term history should remain a personal choice for each of us to
determine whether the risks of a new genetic vaccine is higher than the risk of severe sickness or death to the virus it is approved for "emergency
use"don't you think? |
Don't forget if you do get sick from COVID you have probably already infected those close to you and have given the virus more chances to mutate to a
more dangerous variant. It's not all about just you and your "personal choice". Getting vaccinated is the wise thing to do.
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The Delta variant where I am....Nevada County, CA
So far it has not been a big deal. It has been found in tests performed as far back as June 6th, but was not identified until well after the mask
mandate was lifted on June 15. There has been an uptick of positive tests, but nothing like counties to the south of us.
According to the director of the local hospital, almost all new infections were found in younger, and/or unvaccinated people. The good news is that
the current cases seem to be less damaging than last year's outbreak. As of Friday July16, there were only six people hospitalized, and no deaths for
almost two months!
Nevada County has approximately 100,000 people, and the median age is 48, with 28% of the population over 65!
The story isn't over yet, and nobody is saying "We beat the Rona!", but it appears that an early, heavy push toward vaccinating this elderly
community, along with all the frontline workers, is paying a dividend!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo |
According to the director of the local hospital, almost all new infections were found in younger, and/or unvaccinated people. The good news is that
the current cases seem to be less damaging than last year's outbreak. As of Friday July16, there were only six people hospitalized, and no deaths for
almost two months!
Nevada County has approximately 100,000 people, and the median age is 48, with 28% of the population over 65 |
Heard it on the local radio this morning: same picture in Mexico. They are having the 3rd wave now, most cases are young unvaccinated people. They
are more active, less likely to follow restrictions. Also, many of them are not eligible to get a vaccine yet, only a few days ago they allowed people
under 40. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-city-accelerat...
About dropping deaths counts. Doesn't necessarily mean that the virus mutates to a less deadly variant. Doctor's have now learned how to prevent
deaths, ex. laying you face down instead of face up. There are also antibody drugs for the same purpose - reduce mortality of severe cases. Another
reason is that vast majority of people over 65 have been vaccinated, those contributed a lot to death count in early days. I hope the virus will
eventually mutate to less deadly variant, this is a possible scenario.
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It's both spread amongst a far healthier group (seniors and risk groups have been largely vaccinated), and we have developed some treatments.
I would check testing rates in Sweden. More tests -> more cases found -> lower case fatality.
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