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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 09:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
You can do it all you want. It's your choice [to vaccinate and/or wear a mask].

Such a naivety. Your choice may and will be restricted when interests of the society demand so. Democracy is the power of the majority, not a free for all.

[Edited on 8-4-2021 by Alm]
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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 09:17 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  


Another poster had stated he had never heard of that and asked for sources.

[Edited on 8-4-2021 by JDCanuck]


I did not say I did not hear of that.

I simply asked for your source for the claim "many Canadians
went to USA for vaccines" and also said I did not know of any Canadian going to the USA for a vaccine shot. Your use of word "many" is misleading.

I am not sure what your agenda is on this topic.

Unscheduled drop-in vaccination sights have been operating in BC for the past few weeks....so not sure why folks think they need to go to USA when Canada is overflowing with vaccines.

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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 09:36 AM


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I think it is disgusting she is being ostracized and attacked by people she previously believed were friends because she is following her doctors advice. Is this the way a truly "liberal, tolerant, compassionate "society acts in times of crisis?

[Edited on 8-4-2021 by JDCanuck]


Are you talking about a society or a small group of folks?




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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 10:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
the posts were about people who were unable to actually get the vaccines until very recently so were traveling to the US where they had excesses and getting them there at significant expenses. Until very recently on top of the costs of travel, it cost 3 days stay at around $1000 in a selected quarantine Hotel, then 11 days quarantine at a site (usually a cheaper hotel)selected by the traveler, and three expensive tests costing about another $900. My daughter just go back from flying down and getting hers in Utah 2 weeks ago

Blame Canadian government who failed to procure any vaccine until March and have been unable to manufacture it in Canada. They fell behind many 3rd world countries when it came to vaccination. As we are heading into the 3rd year of the pandemic, I wonder whether they have learned the lesson.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 10:04 AM


Legal Case In Alberta Ends Covid Restrictions and Isolation Due To Lack of SARS2 Evidence of Isolation of Unique Virus

As cases surge, Alberta removes isolation requirements for COVID-19 close contacts
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/live-at-330-p-m-dr...

'Alberta is throwing out public health measures’: Canada’s doctors baffled after province aims to drop COVID-19 masking, isolation
https://news.yahoo.com/alberta-covid-19-rules-mask-isolation...

Legal challenge launched against Alberta's COVID-19 restrictions
https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2020/12/07/legal-challenge-laun...

Justice Centre takes Alberta to court to end lockdowns
https://www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-takes-alberta-to-court-to...


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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 10:11 AM


Alberta is not a bright light on the Canadian political front.



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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 10:20 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
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As for society in general, I notice growing confrontational anger at those that do not share our opinions, including personal attacks here on this site. Last words from me as I no longer wish to be included in it.


I agree that there appears to be dissention between belief systems.... not a new sociological phenomena, but I think the issue is a global one and that there is a reckoning going on with societies around the globe.

The vocal battles are a function of the stress and uncertainty created by paradigm shifts...people voicing their stance is a need for attempts at gaining certainty, predictability, and assurance they know what's going on....

BN is a microcosmic reflection of these processes.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 12:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
the posts were about people who were unable to actually get the vaccines until very recently so were traveling to the US where they had excesses and getting them there at significant expenses. Until very recently on top of the costs of travel, it cost 3 days stay at around $1000 in a selected quarantine Hotel, then 11 days quarantine at a site (usually a cheaper hotel)selected by the traveler, and three expensive tests costing about another $900. My daughter just go back from flying down and getting hers in Utah 2 weeks ago


Blame Canadian government who failed to procure any vaccine until March and have been unable to manufacture it in Canada. They fell behind many 3rd world countries when it came to vaccination. As we are heading into the 3rd year of the pandemic, I wonder whether they have learned the lesson.


"The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today (July 27/21) announced that with its most recent shipment, Canada has now received more than 66 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines – enough to fully vaccinate every eligible person in Canada – two months ahead of the original goal of September.

This milestone in the largest immunization campaign in Canada’s history is the result of a proactive procurement approach, focused on building a diverse vaccine portfolio. As vaccines were authorized by Health Canada, the government remained engaged with vaccine suppliers to speed up delivery schedules and get as many doses into the country as quickly as possible. Canada continues to be a world leader in vaccination rates, with over 80 per cent of eligible people in the country vaccinated with their first dose and approximately 64 per cent fully vaccinated.

https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2021/07/27/canada-reaches-major-vaccine-campaign-milestone



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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 12:24 PM


Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first! Brilliant!

Alwayss the first question after getting notice of being positive is, what do I do now since I can't fly home!? More brilliancy from idiots from the states who chose to come down here without being protected and transmitting their WILL by not getting a simple life saving shot, on our people, and no back up plan for when they can't fly back and infect their families and others because of whatever for or Hanity or Carlson has told them. Even the Idiot Governor from Florida

Don't know what happens to them after they leave the lab. They can't board a flight. Probably have no plans for housing.

My guess is these a-holes just continue to run amuck in BCS and infect us all down here. Pathetic POS“s.


PLEASE, if you are one of these antivaxers, Please don't come down here now and spread what you ignore at home. Just keep it up there where you all obviously want to keep the virus alive and well:mad:

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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 12:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson  
...infect their families and others because of whatever....the Idiot Governor from Florida




More disinformation.

DeSantis is vaccinated - J&J. He tells ppl to get the vaccine. He tells them that its the best protection possible. And he's gone to great lengths to get it to ppl, especially seniors.

His take is the govt. isn't going to lock ppl down from working or going to school. And requiring / wearing a mask is the choice of businesses and individuals.

Stop watching so much CNN.


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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 12:50 PM


And as a follow up for the less educated...What happens here as an example is a big fat sob republican anti vaxer come down to go fishing. They sit in the cabin because its really hot and the hired crew goes and hooks a fish for them. They take a photo and claim its theirs. Or ********** others who feel its their choice not to get vaccinated and travel Baja because they don't feel like its necessary to get a vaccine in order to protect the taco stand lady and their families. Mean while they pass on their covid to the working crew who then pass it on to their unvaccinated families ( remember, we aren't vaccinated yet as we have little to go around). Grandma with HTN, diabetes and a slew of other things gets sic and takes up a hospital bed for weeks and probably dies. Mean while exposing all.

Is it that hard to figure out folks?

Sorry but I'm a little peeed about the selfish people who don't want to participate in ridding me of My Mask! I am tired of wearing this thing!

If not for everyone else, please get a vaccine or wear a mask for me:fire:

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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 12:54 PM


JZ, I do watch your news source for about a 1/2 hour a day divided into small doses until I can't take it anymore. It is completely disgusting and talk about misinformation..... Go to Florida and please not here!
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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 01:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson  
JZ, I do watch your news source for about a 1/2 hour a day divided into small doses until I can't take it anymore. It is completely disgusting and talk about misinformation..... Go to Florida and please not here!


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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 01:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson  
Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first!


More disinformation.



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What disinformation? Are you suggesting CM is not being honest?




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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 01:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson  
Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first!


More disinformation.



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What disinformation? Are you suggesting CM is not being honest?


Dude lives in LP. He knows what’s going on.

What I want to know. What happens to positive tested gringoes trying to fly home?




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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 01:55 PM


I agree with CM's post except for the incorrect statement re DeSantis. Great first hand stuff from CM and it's troubling. Have updated my comment to clarify.






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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 02:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
I agree with CM's post except for the incorrect statement re DeSantis. Have updated my comment.


Uh, you cleaned up your statement accusing him of providing disinformation? Your post still accuses CM of spreading disinformation

So....your blanket statement would be considered disinformation.

Clean-up on aisles j-z :lol:

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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 03:01 PM
A couple of questions for charliemanson....


Is it correct that a negative test, or medical proof of recovery from covid19 is required for boarding a flight (a shot record is not good enough)?

Are any people with covid19 vaccinations showing up with positive test results?

Do you have any way of knowing if any of the people with positive tests have symptoms of infection?

What is your impression of the accuracy of the tests, as far as false positive, or negative results?

Thank you for sharing your first hand information!




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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 04:59 PM


That is an interesting question about what happens to gringos who test positive before flying home.

Someone in my own family tested positive for Covid on Monday and had plans to move to Minnesota tomorrow. Guess what? They’re still moving. Jumping in the uhaul with their Mom and driving to Minnesota to infect others along the way and upon arrival. Complete and utter selfishness right? Or what do you call that? Low IQ?
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[*] posted on 8-4-2021 at 06:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  


What I want to know. What happens to positive tested gringoes trying to fly home?


Maybe they could get on a crowded bus for a 20-hour trip back to the border. :O

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